|
Author
|
Topic: Which Duraspark?
|
indyphil
Gearhead Posts: 3394
From: Senoia, G.A. USA
Registered: Jul 2002
|
posted 02-07-2003 10:14 AM
 
Im thinking about a Duraspark distributor, coil and module to replace my points style ignition. How do i know the difference between duraspark I and II? Is the distributor the same and the module is different or are there fundamental differences with the distributor? Is the coil the same? and which year was the change made?thanks in advance.
|
Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 29200
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
|
posted 02-07-2003 10:20 AM
I has a small regular style cap and II has the large HEI cap.
I was 74 and early 75, II was later 75 and up.
The II's are much more common.
They are both magnetic pick up.------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
www.moneymakerracing.com [This message has been edited by Moneymaker (edited 02-07-2003).]
|
68DARKHORSE
Gearhead Posts: 446
From: Austin, Tx
Registered: Aug 2002
|
posted 02-07-2003 10:28 AM
I have a big cap 351W for $25.
|
indyphil
Gearhead Posts: 3394
From: Senoia, G.A. USA
Registered: Jul 2002
|
posted 02-07-2003 02:01 PM
So the cap is the only difference?
Is the module or coil different?I heard somewhere that Duraspark I is a basic capacitive discharge module, duraspark II is a Mulitple spark module, I wondered if the Duraspark I distributor can trigger a module for a DII Sorry Darkhorse I have a 289, otherwise I would have snapped that up. Thanks you guys. PS Im also under the impression that a Duraspark distributor can trigger an MSD module and coil. please correct me if thats wrong because that may be a future upgrade path for me...  Thanks
|
68DARKHORSE
Gearhead Posts: 446
From: Austin, Tx
Registered: Aug 2002
|
posted 02-07-2003 02:29 PM
I had a duraspark with the Accel 300+ ignition on the old 302. Do a search, there is a thread on wiring the duraspark here.
|
capri man
Gearhead Posts: 8777
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
|
posted 02-07-2003 02:57 PM
this guy might have just what you need.
http://www.network54.com/Hide/Forum/thread?forumid=163500&messageid=1044459419&lp=1044460481------------------
mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
81 capri-7.51 @89mph 1/8
1.54 60 ft.
http://prestage.com/site/site_display.asp?SiteID=141
|
Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 22791
From: Reno Nv M&M #1240
Registered: Apr 2001
|
posted 02-07-2003 03:12 PM
quote:
Originally posted by 68DARKHORSE:
I have a big cap 351W for $25.
Do you mean the whole dist,or just the cap for $25.
------------------
SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
|
68DARKHORSE
Gearhead Posts: 446
From: Austin, Tx
Registered: Aug 2002
|
posted 02-07-2003 04:48 PM
ScoopYou've got mail. Alton
|
Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 29200
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
|
posted 02-07-2003 04:49 PM
The II has a higher output module.------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
www.moneymakerracing.com
|
69 Sportsroof
Gearhead Posts: 2814
From: Valley, Alabama, USA
Registered: Mar 2002
|
posted 02-07-2003 06:16 PM
Here's an option.http://www.northernautoparts.com/ProductDetail.cfm?ProductId=1473 Hey Alex - Did you ever get a chance to ask the guy about the DUI distributor?
|
SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 48752
From: Saco, Maine
Registered: May 99
|
posted 02-07-2003 06:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by 69 Sportsroof:
Here's an option.http://www.northernautoparts.com/ProductDetail.cfm?ProductId=1473 Hey Alex - Did you ever get a chance to ask the guy about the DUI distributor?
That's just a HEI unit too. A Duraspark blows it out of the water at half the cost.
------------------
'70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 Please remember our sponsors,
Mustangs Plus, NPD, Osborn Reproductions, MyFordPerformance.com, and FordRamAir.com
|
66bluefb
Gearhead Posts: 537
From: Okla.City,Okla.
Registered: May 2002
|
posted 02-07-2003 09:57 PM
I put a duraspark ignition on my 302 in my 66 stang.I bought the dist. from Autozone for around 50.00 and the ignition box was around 15.00 or 20.00 I bought the dist.for a 85-302 because I have a roller motor and I needed the steel gear.My dist. has the small cap.I also used the flame thrower coil.Its easy to hook up ,just splice into 2 wires.I did have to go to the bone yard and get 2 connecters that go to the dist. and ignition box.Heres a link that shows how to hook up.http://www.mustangsteve.com/conversion.htmlhttp://ourworld.cs.com/blagintony/myhomepage/auto.html
86-302 HO bored .030 over crank .010 under,
B-303 cam ,harland sharp roller rockers,
performer rpm intake, 625 carter
66-289 heads, ported with 160-194 valves, 3 angle valve job,
4 speed toploader, 85 duraspark ignition, pony interior,the who,the doors,and ccr full blast on the stereo
------------------
http://ourworld.cs.com/blagintony/myhomepage/auto.html
86-302 HO bored .030 over crank .010 under,
B-303 cam ,harland sharp roller rockers,
performer rpm intake, 625 carter
66-289 heads, ported with 160-194 valves, 3 angle valve job,
4 speed toploader, 85 duraspark ignition, pony interior,the who,the doors,and ccr full blast on the stereo
|
69 Sportsroof
Gearhead Posts: 2814
From: Valley, Alabama, USA
Registered: Mar 2002
|
posted 02-08-2003 10:17 AM
quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
That's just a HEI unit too. A Duraspark blows it out of the water at half the cost.
How so? The HEI unit is a much easier and cleaner looking install. No box, no coil, no soldering wires. Just one wire from the ignition switch to the distributor and you're done.
|
SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 48752
From: Saco, Maine
Registered: May 99
|
posted 02-08-2003 08:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by 69 Sportsroof:
How so? The HEI unit is a much easier and cleaner looking install. No box, no coil, no soldering wires. Just one wire from the ignition switch to the distributor and you're done.
It also comes complete with modules that like to burn out because of their location in the housing {in addition of the stock modules only being good for about 5000-5500}, and an advance plate that draws the juice from the coil and melts the rotors on a regular basis. ------------------
'70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 Please remember our sponsors,
Mustangs Plus, NPD, Osborn Reproductions, MyFordPerformance.com, and FordRamAir.com
|
69 Sportsroof
Gearhead Posts: 2814
From: Valley, Alabama, USA
Registered: Mar 2002
|
posted 02-08-2003 11:25 PM
For what it's worth, my truck just so happens to have a stock hei distributor in it. I've owned it for 4 years and have never had a distributor related problem at all. No burned module, no melt down, no nothing. It is on it's second engine now. The first one rounded a cam lobe so I had to rebuild it and it is one hot engine (desktop dyno'd at 375 hp and everyone that's ridden it believes it). I never take it to the strip but it could beat most of what I've seen there. The 5500 stock rpm is also perfect for street use. Of course, my stock ignition on my 69 works fine for me. However, the Proform or Pertronix small block Ford HEI distributors are a viable option.
|
rm302 boss
Gearhead Posts: 680
From: Austin Texas
Registered: Dec 2002
|
posted 02-09-2003 02:58 AM
HEI's biggest falts are heat and over charge. On a ford with out a int regulator there is a lot high's and low's to much for a HEI. Thats why all GM's with an HEI use an internal reg and the first time it goes out so does the ignition. ( personal experence) Heat is the other big killer.. The Dura spark is prone to heat as well but, you have the option of moveing the unit to a much cooler place. Not so on an HEI. ------------------
1970 Boss 302
1990 Taurus SHO
1985 Mustang GT 351W
1995 Land rover Disco
1980 Triumph Spitfire (auto-X car)
|
rm302 boss
Gearhead Posts: 680
From: Austin Texas
Registered: Dec 2002
|
posted 02-09-2003 03:00 AM
I have the Ford Books on all Dura-spark and thick film ignition you you need copys.. I used to work for them as a lead tech.------------------
1970 Boss 302
1990 Taurus SHO
1985 Mustang GT 351W
1995 Land rover Disco
1980 Triumph Spitfire (auto-X car)
|
SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 48752
From: Saco, Maine
Registered: May 99
|
posted 02-09-2003 05:59 PM
quote:
Originally posted by 69 Sportsroof:
For what it's worth, my truck just so happens to have a stock hei distributor in it. I've owned it for 4 years and have never had a distributor related problem at all. No burned module, no melt down, no nothing. It is on it's second engine now. The first one rounded a cam lobe so I had to rebuild it and it is one hot engine (desktop dyno'd at 375 hp and everyone that's ridden it believes it). I never take it to the strip but it could beat most of what I've seen there. The 5500 stock rpm is also perfect for street use. Of course, my stock ignition on my 69 works fine for me. However, the Proform or Pertronix small block Ford HEI distributors are a viable option.
Failed HEIs were a common thing at the Buick dealership I worked at. Just for the heck of it, take the rotor off your truck some time and tell me what the advance weights look like.
------------------
'70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 Please remember our sponsors,
Mustangs Plus, NPD, Osborn Reproductions, MyFordPerformance.com, and FordRamAir.com
|
69 Sportsroof
Gearhead Posts: 2814
From: Valley, Alabama, USA
Registered: Mar 2002
|
posted 02-09-2003 08:54 PM
Anything in particular I should look for?
|
Hell_Fish
Gearhead Posts: 911
From: Austin, TX.
Registered: May 2002
|
posted 02-09-2003 11:03 PM
I just put the DS II system in this weekend, with the help of rm302 boss. It works great. We found the distributor and wiring(BTW-grab the wiring for the when you grab one. It comes in handy) Very happy with it, even more so since the 69 is my daily driver.------------------
Dustin C
"The Mopar Guy!"
56 F-100
Mech. for wifes 69 Mustang coupe
65 Plymouth Barracuda
70 Dodge Swinger
|
indyphil
Gearhead Posts: 3394
From: Senoia, G.A. USA
Registered: Jul 2002
|
posted 02-10-2003 08:52 AM
Hell fish, which coil did you use??
|
Hell_Fish
Gearhead Posts: 911
From: Austin, TX.
Registered: May 2002
|
posted 02-10-2003 09:15 AM
The one that was on the car already(points type). Just changed the dist., added a module, and wired up. Also, we used the old cap and wires for the time being. I have to get new boots of the dist. cap side, when I do that we will intall the new 2 piece cap. Be careful if the engine has been rebuilt. The d*&^head that rebuilt mine(for PO) didn't install the clip for the oil pump shaft and we had to reinstall it since it came out with the dist.------------------
Dustin C
"The Mopar Guy!"
56 F-100
Mech. for wifes 69 Mustang coupe
65 Plymouth Barracuda
70 Dodge Swinger
|
