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Topic: The Mach 1 story on Car & Driver TV
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 30261
From: Saco, Maine
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-04-2003 07:41 PM
  
A few of the facts were wrong, but they did an interesting overview of the Mach 1 story and a road test on the '03 Mach 1.Just ignore that BLOWHARD Brock Yates!  "The Mach 1 never did anything for me..." {He's more of a pastel honda type of guy} ------------------
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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 01-04-2003 07:42 PM
It airs again tomorrow at 12:30PM EST on TNN, by the way.------------------
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V8 Thumper
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posted 01-04-2003 07:45 PM
I'll catch that one for sure  Yates... any relation to who I'm thinking of? ------------------
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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 01-04-2003 07:56 PM
No, no relation to Jim Yates. Brock Yates is a blowhard writer that turns his nose at both the Mustang and the Lightning pickups. He's also the screwball behind the Cannonball Run. ------------------
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mustangboy
Gearhead Posts: 462
From: Ont, Canada
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 01-04-2003 07:58 PM
Yeah I caught a bit of that today.I though that "Brock" was kidding when he said he didn't like the shaker because it really served no purpose and blocked his view.I kept waiting for the punchline as he was slamming the mach and when there wasn't any I realized he was serious.Why interview someone who doesn't like the car?
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V8 Thumper
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posted 01-04-2003 07:58 PM
Funny movie, but not exactally cerebral  'BLOWHARD'... LOL!  ------------------
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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 01-04-2003 08:21 PM
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Originally posted by mustangboy:
Yeah I caught a bit of that today.I though that "Brock" was kidding when he said he didn't like the shaker because it really served no purpose and blocked his view.I kept waiting for the punchline as he was slamming the mach and when there wasn't any I realized he was serious.Why interview someone who doesn't like the car?
He also thinks the Lightning is "...the most ridiculous thing Detroit ever came up with." Total blowhard. I think he believes everyone should drive Stultz Bearcats or something. ------------------
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johnmustang
Gearhead Posts: 3244
From: Vancouver Island , British Columbia , Canada
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 01-04-2003 08:27 PM
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I watched it this morning, I thought it was pretty good. I also thought Brock yates had a ricer piston up his a$$ the way he was standing there leaning on the 03 Mach 1 and bad mouthing it. His comments were from a guy that does not know history when he see`s it and the comment about the hood-scoop being just a marketing tool pi$$ed me off. I then looked at the source and thought, the guy is just a ricer Wanna-bee. Not everything about the Mach 1 is great, but Yates trashed it for no good reason. If he can,t see over the hood scoop when he is driving the car, sit on a few phone books or better yet, turn over the key`s to somebody who can appreciate some real muscle car history and nostalgia. I can,t figure out how he fits his fat a$$ behind the wheel of a ricer
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Fastymz
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Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 01-04-2003 08:30 PM
Gee if he cant see over that little scoop.There would be no way he could see anything out of my windshield.
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cobravenom71
Gearhead Posts: 492
From: KIssimee, Fl USA
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 01-04-2003 10:00 PM
Brock Yates is an a**hole! The shaker IS a merketing device, but so what? Just because the car would be just as fast with a more sedate and inconspicuos cold-air system doesn't mean it has to be made in the most visually boring way possible! Is Yates trying to say that when a clever marketing idea comes up which will satisfy customers and help sell a few more cars that it should not be used? Are Ford and other manufacturers supposed to try to NOT market thier product? If you think about it, isn't every single facet of a vehicle's design a marketing device?
It seems as though Mr. Yates is trying to say that the new Mach 1 would be better suited in his opinion if it was designed NOT to appeal to the very people who desire such a car.
I think Yates has been sitting in his garage with the engine running and the garage door closed while reading his own articles too much. That combination would cause anyone to suffer retardation. And I have alwys thought he was the biggest retard around the car biz.
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Toronado3800
Gearhead Posts: 167
From: St. Louis, MO
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 01-04-2003 10:18 PM
The only thing I do with (Foreign)Car & Driver or Road & (Yuppie)Track is snag the times from their road tests so I'll know who owns what when I'm driving through the land of white flight in westen St. Louis County.
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Fastback68
Gearhead Posts: 1280
From: Sucat, Paranaque, Philippines
Registered: Jul 99
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posted 01-05-2003 03:40 AM
Relax guys Auto journalists think that if they say something controversial, they'll become famous. Just last week I was watching BBC's Top Gear with Britain's own full-of-himself auto journalist Jeremy Clarkson. He did a review of car designers, and in the bottom category - the "Totally Uncool" category - along with little Hyundai people carriers and what have you, was the PT Cruiser.
He can only have been trying to piss people off! I know some people hate the PT Cruiser, but he knows damn well that many people, myself included, think the PT Cruiser is a true groundbreaker (albeit retro) in terms of styling.
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soaring
Gearhead Posts: 116
From: New Mexico
Registered: Nov 2002
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posted 01-05-2003 04:08 AM
Whether the Shaker serves a purpose or not is secondary to the marketing fact that Mustangers like it. Ford doesn't necessarily have to produce Mach 1's for the general public, they manufacture them for a select few, and hopefully draw in a few others to support their marketing scheme. BTW, I haven't heard from anyone who has paid less than sticker price for the 03 Mach......------------------
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indyphil
Gearhead Posts: 397
From: Lafayette, IN, USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 01-05-2003 10:36 AM
Im pretty sure that guy isnt actually an Auto Journalist. Ive seen him on lots of other shows including gun shows. I think they hired him for the combination of his Ned flanders lookalike status and his imposing voice. I have heard a lot of crap come out of his mouth I think he mostly loves expensive German cars, and like a lot of auto journalists he likes to bash detroit products.Which reminds me... the new mustang is going to be unveiled in detroit at the auto show, today apparantly.
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indyphil
Gearhead Posts: 397
From: Lafayette, IN, USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 01-05-2003 12:34 PM
:0 Oops just watched the show
Looks like i should have watched the show. The guy I was thinking of was on the Old car and driver TV shows. Brock Yates does appear to be the editor of the real Auto magazine, but man does he not like that shaker. I think it looked good.
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Toronado3800
Gearhead Posts: 167
From: St. Louis, MO
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 01-07-2003 02:21 AM
PT Cruiser...German owned company, built in Mexico....is a fine looking car, but....well heck when someone tells me the Neon plant pays $15 an hour and meets U.S. pollution standards I'll be able to hold it even with an American built Honda Accord.
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