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bluestreek
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posted 10-25-2002 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestreek   Click Here to Email bluestreek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I finally got the look that that I was after. It took 2 paint jobs to get the color right. The new fiberglass hood and bumper really lightened up the front end too. Now on to the engine bay where the 331 stroker will be sitting in about a week. Then the interior will get a makeover. I can't wait to get the new engine in and fire it up!!

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Moneymaker
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posted 10-25-2002 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love dem coupes!

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bluestreek
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posted 10-26-2002 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestreek   Click Here to Email bluestreek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The front Window will get replaced when the interior is done and the rest of the trim will go back on.
Notice anything different about the grill?

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V8 Thumper
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posted 10-26-2002 07:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Blue is lookin' good

Got any pics of the stroker?

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bluestreek
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posted 10-26-2002 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestreek   Click Here to Email bluestreek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's my little 289 sleeper (full roller).

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mustangboy
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posted 10-26-2002 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bluestreek:
The front Window will get replaced when the interior is done and the rest of the trim will go back on.
Notice anything different about the grill?

Ya your pony's got no corrall. Car looks fantastic,good job.

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bluestreek
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posted 10-26-2002 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestreek   Click Here to Email bluestreek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, I let pony out and gonna let it run wild!!

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65Acode
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posted 10-26-2002 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65Acode     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very nice job, You let the Pony run out of the pasture!! Excellent job on the engine too. What kind of heads did you use?

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bluestreek
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posted 10-27-2002 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestreek   Click Here to Email bluestreek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry for the slow responses. This project is really eating up a lot of time. The heads are ported Trick Flows with 2.05/1.60 Race-Flo valves and double roller springs.

I removed the old tired 289 and tranny from the car today and found out that the flywheel and bell housing was 10". So I had to scrounge around and find another starter and bell to work with the new 11" alum./steel flywheel and clutch. I've learned that once you stray from stock parts, you have to be prepared for a lot of surprises. I found the parts I needed, and tomorrow I'll paint the bay and hopefully get the new engine in real soon.

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kcode
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posted 10-27-2002 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kcode   Click Here to Email kcode     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks real sharp!!!!

If you are using a 164 tooth flywheel and bell and spacer plate, be prepared for some possible header interference. The larger bell in a 65-66 trans tunnel makes things alittle tighter.

Mike

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rockafellz
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posted 10-27-2002 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rockafellz   Click Here to Email rockafellz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bluestreek:
I've learned that once you stray from stock parts, you have to be prepared for a lot of surprises.

OH Boy, I will second that remark!! It was definately a learning experience for me!!

Erik

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Fastymz
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posted 10-27-2002 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I LOVE IT,thats a sweet looking car.And the motor is awsome too.
Cool scoop,I looked at that scoop,before I got mine.
Got any more picutes.
Is the rear bumper and tail light rims paint to match the body too?
Can you tell me what color you used.

It's always fun to let the pony run loose.

SCOOP

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Big D
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posted 10-27-2002 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big D   Click Here to Email Big D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your car looks great.. That is one bad SCOOP..

It's nice to know,, I'm not the only one that had to do things twice before it's right..

The painted bumper is a nice touch..

Don

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Ken
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posted 10-27-2002 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken   Click Here to Email Ken     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awesome...absolutely awesome !!!

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Fastymz
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posted 10-27-2002 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Big D:
Your car looks great.. That is one bad SCOOP..

It's nice to know,, I'm not the only one that had to do things twice before it's right..

The painted bumper is a nice touch..

Don

[This message has been edited by Big D (edited 10-27-2002).]


Don did you notice the turn lights rings are painted too.
I really like the chrome REMOVED, and painted the body color .

SCOOP

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bluestreek
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posted 10-28-2002 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestreek   Click Here to Email bluestreek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks to everyone for the compliments!!
I took lots of time, beer, sanding, beer, and elbow grease to get it to where it is. The car started as an old wrecked, wore out 6 cyl. Coupe and I decided to give the old Pony some "kick".

There was a good reason for painting some of the chrome. After painting the body I started putting it back together and noticed the chrome was in terrible shape. So instead of spending more money I decided to see how the old ones would look painted. It didn't cost a cent more and I thought they turned out pretty good myself. The rear is trimmed out the same as the front except I put new chrome tailights in. The lower body moulding is painted too. I added just enough new chrome to still give it the Classic look. The wheels are Centerline billets. The color is Viper Blue Pearl clearcoat. After the first paint job I didn't really think it was dark enough, so I layed on another gallon and made it a much deeper blue. That picture was taken on a wet gloomy day and it really looks better in the sunlight.

The little pony in the grill is a '68 vintage I think. Since I was lightening up the front end I decided that the '66 pony/corral was way too big and heavy to put back on. After adding the fiberglass hood and bumper I decided to remove as much front end weight as possible by using all the liteweight parts I could think of.

kcode: I didn't really have much problem with the bell. I had to do some fab work on the larger fulcrum and lever assy. Other than that, the Hedman hedders fit like a glove. Just had to raise the engine on the drivers side to get them to slide up by the lower head bolts.

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Jeff
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posted 10-28-2002 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeff   Click Here to Email Jeff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kcode:
Looks real sharp!!!! If you are using a 164 tooth flywheel and bell and spacer plate, be prepared for some possible header interference. The larger bell in a 65-66 trans tunnel makes things alittle tighter. Mike

I use the 164 tooth set up on my 5.0L powered '65. The only clearance issue with my Hooker Comp headers is with the add on engine pivot adapter bracket for the z-bar. Z-bar itself fits fine. The CPC z-bar pivot was ground down with a crescent shape to provide clearance for the 3L header tube. Grinding the pivot didn't affect the strength and so it all went together quite nicely.

Pivot must be the 164 tooth pivot adapter since the 157 tooth variety is about 3/8" too short. 164 tooth bell has longer mounting bosses for the bolts and this impacts how far forward the pivot centerline is. CPC sells the pivot adapter for the 164 tooth but only on special order AFAIK.

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Fastymz
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posted 10-28-2002 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is your scoop bolted on?
How about some more pictures.


SCOOP

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 10-28-2002 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow! That looks nice!

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V8 Thumper
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posted 10-28-2002 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yea

Looking at that carb spacer, I've got hood scoop envy

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Fastymz
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posted 10-28-2002 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Todd I can give you any scoop advice you need.
Get a 2nd hood and go crazy.

SCOOP

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posted 10-28-2002 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
Get a 2nd hood and go crazy.

SCOOP


You know, I'm concidering that

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bluestreek
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posted 10-28-2002 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestreek   Click Here to Email bluestreek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Be patient, Scoop!. You kinda remind me of my youngest brother. He has been hanging around for weeks hoping to get a chance to hear the solid roller stroker run. We were disappointed again this weekend.
I'll get some more pics up as soon as the weather clears. It's been raining here for 3 days. I slid the new engine in and bolted up the tranny Sunday in between light rain. I still have some wiring to do and some finishing touches. You asked about the SCOOP. It's a bolt on aero-scoop without the huge tunnel that usually goes underneath. I fabbed an upper and lower support frame out of 1/8" thick x 3/4" wide aluminum flat stock that I got from Home Depot and secured it flat to the hood. I decided not to mount it permanent in case I want to try something different later on.

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posted 10-28-2002 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do have about 3/4 gallon of leftover paint Hmmmmmmmmm

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bluestreek
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posted 10-28-2002 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestreek   Click Here to Email bluestreek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by V8 Thumper:

Looking at that carb spacer, I've got hood scoop envy


That's a good one Todd!!

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posted 10-28-2002 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by V8 Thumper:
I [b]do have about 3/4 gallon of leftover paint Hmmmmmmmmm [/B]

Thats all you need,and then go out and get a 1" 4hole spacer or maybe a 2" 4hole spacer would work better for you.

SCOOP

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posted 10-28-2002 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bluestreek,sorry I dont mean to sound pushy.I really like custom
Mustangs&Fords of all types. I cant get enough of them.
I really like what you've done so far.I may even copy some of things you've done.

SCOOP

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posted 10-28-2002 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestreek   Click Here to Email bluestreek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Summit sells a nice little cheap 3/4" breather neck too. You can stack up as many as you need. Look under the breather on the engine pic and you can see it.

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posted 10-29-2002 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by V8 Thumper:
You know, I'm concidering that


Me too! I can't decide whether to go shaker or Cobra Jet scoop on the Mach and I've been considering buying another hood.

Jeff Ford has two trunk lids for Lazarus...

Pam just shakes her head when I mention that idea...

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mstngjoe
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posted 10-29-2002 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mstngjoe   Click Here to Email mstngjoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very nice

Which conversion kit did you use for the roller cam?

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posted 10-29-2002 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrWesson22   Click Here to Email MrWesson22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Steve, I'm struggling with the same decision on mine (shaker vs CJ scoop). Do you know if I could fit a strip dominator/1" spacer/750HP on a cleveland under the shaker setup??

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posted 10-30-2002 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestreek   Click Here to Email bluestreek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mstngjoe:
Very nice

Which conversion kit did you use for the roller cam?


I used the new Xtreme Energy street roller cam and solid link-bar lifters. A special dist. gear wasn't needed. The cam has a mild duration of 230 int./236 exh. with about .574/.584 total lift. CompCams says it should be very reliable and work well with my 3.50 gear ratio. I wanted to build something with decent torque on the street and maybe put me into the 12s on the strip without pushing it REAL hard.

Wish me luck.

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posted 10-30-2002 01:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bluestreek:
I used the new Xtreme Energy street roller cam and solid link-bar lifters. A special dist. gear wasn't needed. The cam has a mild duration of 230 int./236 exh. with about .574/.584 total lift. CompCams says it should be very reliable and work well with my 3.50 gear ratio. I wanted to build something with decent torque on the street and maybe put me into the 12s on the strip without pushing it REAL hard.

Wish me luck.


With traction, I dont see why you wouldn't make the high 12's.

SCOOP

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posted 10-30-2002 01:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neal and Steve,
The SHAKER hood would be my 2nd choice.

The 429 Boss scoop would be my 1st choice.

SCOOP

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posted 10-30-2002 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mstngjoe   Click Here to Email mstngjoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bluestreek:

Do you mean the Crane retrofit link bar lifters (part # 36532-16)???

I'm going with the XE274HR for my 331.

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posted 10-30-2002 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestreek   Click Here to Email bluestreek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mstngjoe:
Bluestreek:

Do you mean the Crane retrofit link bar lifters (part # 36532-16)???

I'm going with the XE274HR for my 331.


No, mine has a Mechanical roller cam, not hydraulic. The number that you listed will work for your HR cam though. Make sure you use the proper hardened pushrods for your application though. Standard length will not work.

good luck!

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posted 10-30-2002 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mstngjoe   Click Here to Email mstngjoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay thanks.

Yes I know about the pushrod length. Just got a length checker from Summit. That's one of the specs I'll be verifying on the first mockup.

By the way, the tech line at both Crane and Comp were less than helpful when I was researching compatibility between the Crane lifters and the Comp XE cam. Seems company employment/loyalty is ranked above honest and helpful information.

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posted 10-30-2002 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MrWesson22:
Steve, I'm struggling with the same decision on mine (shaker vs CJ scoop). Do you know if I could fit a strip dominator/1" spacer/750HP on a cleveland under the shaker setup??



I don't know, I wonder about that too. I have noticed cars with the shakers seem to vary with the amount the scoop sticks out of the hood. Some are sunk in while some seem to bulge right out.

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