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Topic: 351windsor in a 66 or not?
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wvcat
Gearhead Posts: 285
From: New Cumberland,WV
Registered: May 2001
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posted 10-01-2002 11:04 PM
   
I am wondering if its worth it to shoehorn a 351w into my 66 or look around for a 289/302. I am not looking for max power just a nice v8/AOD combo in a driver. Anybody done the 351 swap without buying expensive headers or cutting the shock towers?
John
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mstngjoe
Journeyman Posts: 65
From: Oregon
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 10-01-2002 11:34 PM
How about a fresh 302 w/AOD?  ------------------
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 18590
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 10-01-2002 11:54 PM
John mine is a low buck conversion.I used hedmen headers from summitt racing they were $99.I would look at the 302 if I was into just having a cruiser.I changed my plugs today it takes me about an hour.And cuts up my hands good too.The extra weight and size from the 351w are worth it if your into more POWER.If not good with good 302.  SCOOP ------------------
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71RESTO
Gearhead Posts: 1320
From: Oregon, USA
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 10-02-2002 12:01 AM
Hey Joe,
Haven't heard from you lately!!
Is that your new engine or the one you are pulling out for the new one?------------------
Duane
71 Fastback (his) under resto (351C-4V C6 auto)
73 Mach 1 (hers) (351CJ 4 speed)
66 289/2V coupe (daughter Ashley's)
89 LX 2.3 convertible (daughter Amanda's)
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mstngjoe
Journeyman Posts: 65
From: Oregon
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 10-02-2002 12:05 AM
Hey Duane.No. That's an engine and AOD my uncle has for sale. That and a bunch of stuff to go with it. Stop by and I'll show you my collection for the 331. ------------------
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 18590
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 10-02-2002 12:12 AM
Joe whats he asking for the motor and trans?SCOOP ------------------
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[email protected] 1/8 mile 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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mstngjoe
Journeyman Posts: 65
From: Oregon
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 10-02-2002 07:13 AM
Scoop:
Sent you an email with about a dozen pics.Let me know if any problems or ?. ------------------
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wvcat
Gearhead Posts: 285
From: New Cumberland,WV
Registered: May 2001
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posted 10-02-2002 01:41 PM
I would love to have that 302/AOD combo but cash is short so I'll probably rebuild the 302 I have and look for a AOD cheap. The reason I asked about the 351 is because I have a fresh one that has already had screw in studs and guideplates installed with roller rockers (DO castings) offy intake and all. The car is going to be for my wife to drive so I don't want anything outrages just a good cruiser. Did the headmans fit without massaging? Thanks for the replies all!!!
John
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The_Dude
Journeyman Posts: 21
From: Oregon
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 10-02-2002 01:50 PM
Mstngjoe,
Send me some pics and price as well. Where are you in Oregon? Thanks,
Dennis
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 18590
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 10-02-2002 01:53 PM
Joe thanks I emailed you. Ron ------------------
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 18590
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 10-02-2002 01:56 PM
John the headers went right in,did have to a thing to them.They fit better the the stock exhaust manifolds did.You need 351 acc brackets too.Other wise it just gose right in.I did use the shorty headers.If I had that motor ready to go just waiting to be installed,it would be in there asap.  SCOOP ------------------ 2.634 60's
[email protected] 1/8 mile 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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wvcat
Gearhead Posts: 285
From: New Cumberland,WV
Registered: May 2001
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posted 10-02-2002 06:31 PM
Hey Scoop, do you have any pics of your engine compartment with the wndsor in there? (anyone) I am curious how well it fits or if I want to fit it in there. Did you install the motor with the headers bolted up? How hard is it to get to the plugs?Do you have the part number for those headmans?
John
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 18590
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 10-02-2002 06:34 PM
John on my photo page there is two ok pictures of the motor.SummitRacing.com HED-88660 Ford: 1964-73 351W Mustang, 1 5/8 in. primary tubes, 3 in. collectors, engine swap headers ... $109.95 I installed the hedders with the motor in.I did undo the motor mount on the drivers side and jack the motor up alittle that help alot.
Plugs are alittle bit of work to get to.It takes at least 45min to change them. SCOOP ------------------ 2.634 60's
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wvcat
Gearhead Posts: 285
From: New Cumberland,WV
Registered: May 2001
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posted 10-02-2002 09:40 PM
Cool Scoop looks like I'll probably be going with the windsor. I can't even buy a used 302 for that price...lol
Thanks
John
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mustangzrule
Journeyman Posts: 87
From: Orion, MI
Registered: Sep 2002
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posted 10-03-2002 11:00 AM
Fastymz,
Those are the same headers I used to put the 351 in my 68. Do you have the same problem with some of the bolds not fitting into the holes because the tubes are in the way? Just curious. I had to hammer the tube to get it to fit. I guess you get what you pay for.
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68stang351
Gearhead Posts: 273
From: Savoy TX, USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 10-03-2002 11:33 AM
SCOOP, Mustangrulz, I also have the same headers on my 68 with the 351. And yes I had the same problem. I took all the bolts back out and did those first, then the others, and it gave me no problems. I put mine on the motor b4 it was in the car, then dropped in the motor with the headers, tranny, everything, went it fine. ------------------
Hoofbeats are louder than Heartbeats!
68 Coupe, now with a 351W and 5speed.
Now officially dubbed "THE PIT"
New addition: 63 Fairlane 500!!
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 18590
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 10-03-2002 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by mustangzrule:
Fastymz,
Those are the same headers I used to put the 351 in my 68. Do you have the same problem with some of the bolds not fitting into the holes because the tubes are in the way? Just curious. I had to hammer the tube to get it to fit. I guess you get what you pay for.
Yes I did too,I put all the bolts in the holes 1st and started the harder ones 1st and I try to run then all down together.
I also sanded the hedders well and painted then with VHT high heat paint.It has held up for over year now.I also took a large flat file and went over the inner flanges to make sure I got a good seal to the heads.
YES you get what you pay for,I'll get the Hooker super comps one day they are only $400.  SCOOP ------------------ 2.634 60's
[email protected] 1/8 mile 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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