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Topic: Suspension for 68 Coupe, Help?
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pyrofighting
Journeyman Posts: 19
From: Fountain Valley, Ca., USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 08-23-2002 03:49 AM
   
Ok guys, I have been taled out of the Mustang II front suspension. Now I have to find a COMPLETE suspension setup for the car. I have called Global West, Mustangs Plus, Marlos, & Cal Mustang. I have no clue who to go with. The car will have a 400 horse 302 in it and it will be mostly a show car. But will will do doing some fun driving with it. I want fron and rear power disc brakes (I currently have 4 wheel manual drum). I nned everything from bushings to coils and front to rear including sub frame connectors. please gbe me ALL the input you can so I can make a wise desision.Thanks Peter
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mellowyellow
Gearhead Posts: 6677
From: So. Fl.
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 08-23-2002 06:49 AM
You're looking at about the same money no matter what you go with. What was the reason given for someone panning the II susp.
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68DARKHORSE
Gearhead Posts: 422
From: Austin, Tx
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 08-23-2002 10:17 AM
Check this site. They have what you need to convert to an 8.8 with control arm instead of leafs. It takes alot of weight off the car and tracks better.http://www.griggsracing.com/index.html
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pyrofighting
Journeyman Posts: 19
From: Fountain Valley, Ca., USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 08-23-2002 11:30 AM
Just an update for you guys. I do not want to go eith TCP, they are way overpriced. I am looking for a suspension without brakes for about $1,000 to $1,500, complete. I am also looking to do the 4 wheel disc conversion for $1,500 to $2,000. Keep with the susgestions.Thanks again Peter
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 42859
From: Saco, Maine
Registered: May 99
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posted 08-23-2002 08:24 PM
I recommend a stock rebuild using good quality parts, like Moog. I think a lot of people really go overboard with suspension pieces. ------------------
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Gullatt's Mustangs
Journeyman Posts: 84
From: No Alabama USA
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 08-23-2002 08:38 PM
Steve, What do you think if Peter did a stock rebuild with the exception of Granada front spindles (don't forget the outer tie rod ends and use the granada proportioning valve, master cylinder and Granada rear wheel cylinders? Greg quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
I recommend a stock rebuild using good quality parts, like Moog. I think a lot of people really go overboard with suspension pieces.
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 42859
From: Saco, Maine
Registered: May 99
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posted 08-23-2002 08:43 PM
Absolutely. There's even a how-to in our 'Tech Articles' section: https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/DanJonesDrumDiskConversion.html By overboard, I was referring to tubular A-arms, coilovers, rack&pinion, etc... ------------------
All Fords since 1977!
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pyrofighting
Journeyman Posts: 19
From: Fountain Valley, Ca., USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 08-23-2002 08:49 PM
Update: i have a pretty good deal setup for 4 wheel manual disc (Willword) for 1500 bucks total, all new hardware and hoses, etc. But, now for the suspension, I am still lost. Who is Moog?
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 42859
From: Saco, Maine
Registered: May 99
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posted 08-23-2002 08:55 PM
Moog makes high quality, OEM style suspension parts. NPD has them, as does better local auto parts stores. Other good brand names are TRW/Federal Mogul and McQuay-Norris, in that order.------------------
All Fords since 1977!
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Gullatt's Mustangs
Journeyman Posts: 84
From: No Alabama USA
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 08-23-2002 08:59 PM
Steer/stear, I can smell the Grill(BBQ) write/right now !
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Certified Mustang Fanatics,65FB,66vert,66FB,67FB,69Cobra,70M1,need more space !
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 42859
From: Saco, Maine
Registered: May 99
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posted 08-23-2002 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by pyrofighting:
Update: i have a pretty good deal setup for 4 wheel manual disc (Willword) for 1500 bucks total, all new hardware and hoses, etc. But, now for the suspension, I am still lost. Who is Moog?
You could have a great braking system, a front disc/rear drum for 1/3 that cost or less. ------------------
All Fords since 1977!
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Gullatt's Mustangs
Journeyman Posts: 84
From: No Alabama USA
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 08-23-2002 09:33 PM
Peter, I'll have to agree with Steve,on the front disc/rear drum setup. Also you will have money left over that you can use for bodywork and paint ! quote:
Originally posted by pyrofighting:
Update: i have a pretty good deal setup for 4 wheel manual disc (Willword) for 1500 bucks total, all new hardware and hoses, etc. But, now for the suspension, I am still lost. Who is Moog?
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Certified Mustang Fanatics,65FB,66vert,66FB,67FB,69Cobra,70M1,need more space !
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pyrofighting
Journeyman Posts: 19
From: Fountain Valley, Ca., USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 08-23-2002 09:55 PM
Well, sin ce all the body is almost done, and I am painting it myself, I wont need the money for that. This is gonna be a show car and nothing looks better than 4 wheel disc with 17" rims. Thanks for the thought though guys.
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Gullatt's Mustangs
Journeyman Posts: 84
From: No Alabama USA
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 08-23-2002 10:28 PM
OK ! I give up ! quote:
Originally posted by pyrofighting:
Well, sin ce all the body is almost done, and I am painting it myself, I wont need the money for that. This is gonna be a show car and nothing looks better than 4 wheel disc with 17" rims. Thanks for the thought though guys.
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jsracingbbf
Gearhead Posts: 2740
From: Batesville,MS. , U.S.A.
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 08-23-2002 11:18 PM
Actually, You may want to check those Wilwood brakes to make sure they are not Drga race only. If this car sees any street service the Wilwoods may not be heavy enough for street duty. Pay close attention the the recommended car weights. Try this site.
http://www.ecihotrodbrakes.com/mustang_pinto_discbrake_conversions.html
OEM brakes with large rotors can be made to look really good. I have a lot of street rod friends with them and they win lots of trophies.
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"Even a blind hog can find an acorn every now and then "
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Mpcoluv
Gearhead Posts: 1271
From: Charlotte NC usa
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 08-24-2002 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by jsracingbbf:
Actually, You may want to check those Wilwood brakes to make sure they are not Drga race only. If this car sees any street service the Wilwoods may not be heavy enough for street duty. Pay close attention the the recommended car weights. Try this site.
http://www.ecihotrodbrakes.com/mustang_pinto_discbrake_conversions.html
OEM brakes with large rotors can be made to look really good. I have a lot of street rod friends with them and they win lots of trophies.
Wilwood's Heavy Duty kits are fine, but avoid the drag race setup.....
I have the same rear setup as the ECI version with the Cadillac caliper and the MK VII rotors. I would go with the new wilwood setup with the brake shoes in the hub If I had to do it over.....
I am in the process of installing a MP Brakes booster w/ 4-wheel disk master cylinder. Nw that I'm in the middle of it, I am spending my time getting the clutch linkage fixed. The previous owner never replaced the bushings (in fact ran it without bushings) and everything is grooved/slotted.
Next Project....'99-up GT PBR calipers on my Granada front brakes......
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pyrofighting
Journeyman Posts: 19
From: Fountain Valley, Ca., USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 08-24-2002 11:58 AM
Then can I get just as good a deal for 4 wheel manual disc with all hardware and lines for $1500?Peter
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Mpcoluv
Gearhead Posts: 1271
From: Charlotte NC usa
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 08-25-2002 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by pyrofighting:
Then can I get just as good a deal for 4 wheel manual disc with all hardware and lines for $1500?Peter
I think you can buy the front and rear kits from summit for around $1500....
I would run a booster myself.....
I ran manual (wilwood master cyl for sale BTW) 4-wheel disks for about a year and was not super happy with it. Fine if you are Planning on stopping, but not so hot if someone pulls out in front of you in traffic.
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alanq64
Gearhead Posts: 174
From: missouri
Registered: Feb 2004
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posted 02-16-2004 04:46 PM
Why not use an 8.8 out of an explorer that already has the disc brakes? ------------------
68 coupe
302 w/C4
PS & AC
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