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pyrofighting
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posted 08-23-2002 03:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pyrofighting   Click Here to Email pyrofighting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok guys, I have been taled out of the Mustang II front suspension. Now I have to find a COMPLETE suspension setup for the car. I have called Global West, Mustangs Plus, Marlos, & Cal Mustang. I have no clue who to go with. The car will have a 400 horse 302 in it and it will be mostly a show car. But will will do doing some fun driving with it. I want fron and rear power disc brakes (I currently have 4 wheel manual drum). I nned everything from bushings to coils and front to rear including sub frame connectors. please gbe me ALL the input you can so I can make a wise desision.

Thanks Peter

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mellowyellow
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posted 08-23-2002 06:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're looking at about the same money no matter what you go with. What was the reason given for someone panning the II susp.

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68DARKHORSE
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posted 08-23-2002 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68DARKHORSE   Click Here to Email 68DARKHORSE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Check this site. They have what you need to convert to an 8.8 with control arm instead of leafs. It takes alot of weight off the car and tracks better.

http://www.griggsracing.com/index.html

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pyrofighting
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posted 08-23-2002 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pyrofighting   Click Here to Email pyrofighting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just an update for you guys. I do not want to go eith TCP, they are way overpriced. I am looking for a suspension without brakes for about $1,000 to $1,500, complete. I am also looking to do the 4 wheel disc conversion for $1,500 to $2,000. Keep with the susgestions.

Thanks again Peter

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 08-23-2002 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I recommend a stock rebuild using good quality parts, like Moog.

I think a lot of people really go overboard with suspension pieces.

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Gullatt's Mustangs
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posted 08-23-2002 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gullatt's Mustangs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Steve, What do you think if Peter did a stock rebuild with the exception of Granada front spindles (don't forget the outer tie rod ends and use the granada proportioning valve, master cylinder and Granada rear wheel cylinders? Greg
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Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
I recommend a stock rebuild using good quality parts, like Moog.

I think a lot of people really go overboard with suspension pieces.


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posted 08-23-2002 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Absolutely.

There's even a how-to in our 'Tech Articles' section:

https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/DanJonesDrumDiskConversion.html

By overboard, I was referring to tubular A-arms, coilovers, rack&pinion, etc...

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pyrofighting
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posted 08-23-2002 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pyrofighting   Click Here to Email pyrofighting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Update: i have a pretty good deal setup for 4 wheel manual disc (Willword) for 1500 bucks total, all new hardware and hoses, etc. But, now for the suspension, I am still lost. Who is Moog?

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 08-23-2002 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moog makes high quality, OEM style suspension parts. NPD has them, as does better local auto parts stores. Other good brand names are TRW/Federal Mogul and McQuay-Norris, in that order.

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Gullatt's Mustangs
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posted 08-23-2002 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gullatt's Mustangs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Steer/stear, I can smell the Grill(BBQ) write/right now !

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 08-23-2002 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pyrofighting:
Update: i have a pretty good deal setup for 4 wheel manual disc (Willword) for 1500 bucks total, all new hardware and hoses, etc. But, now for the suspension, I am still lost. Who is Moog?

You could have a great braking system, a front disc/rear drum for 1/3 that cost or less.

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Gullatt's Mustangs
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posted 08-23-2002 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gullatt's Mustangs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Peter, I'll have to agree with Steve,on the front disc/rear drum setup. Also you will have money left over that you can use for bodywork and paint !
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Originally posted by pyrofighting:
Update: i have a pretty good deal setup for 4 wheel manual disc (Willword) for 1500 bucks total, all new hardware and hoses, etc. But, now for the suspension, I am still lost. Who is Moog?

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pyrofighting
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posted 08-23-2002 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pyrofighting   Click Here to Email pyrofighting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, sin ce all the body is almost done, and I am painting it myself, I wont need the money for that. This is gonna be a show car and nothing looks better than 4 wheel disc with 17" rims. Thanks for the thought though guys.

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posted 08-23-2002 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gullatt's Mustangs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK ! I give up !
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Originally posted by pyrofighting:
Well, sin ce all the body is almost done, and I am painting it myself, I wont need the money for that. This is gonna be a show car and nothing looks better than 4 wheel disc with 17" rims. Thanks for the thought though guys.

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jsracingbbf
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posted 08-23-2002 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jsracingbbf   Click Here to Email jsracingbbf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, You may want to check those Wilwood brakes to make sure they are not Drga race only. If this car sees any street service the Wilwoods may not be heavy enough for street duty. Pay close attention the the recommended car weights. Try this site.
http://www.ecihotrodbrakes.com/mustang_pinto_discbrake_conversions.html
OEM brakes with large rotors can be made to look really good. I have a lot of street rod friends with them and they win lots of trophies.

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Mpcoluv
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posted 08-24-2002 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mpcoluv   Click Here to Email Mpcoluv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jsracingbbf:
Actually, You may want to check those Wilwood brakes to make sure they are not Drga race only. If this car sees any street service the Wilwoods may not be heavy enough for street duty. Pay close attention the the recommended car weights. Try this site.
http://www.ecihotrodbrakes.com/mustang_pinto_discbrake_conversions.html
OEM brakes with large rotors can be made to look really good. I have a lot of street rod friends with them and they win lots of trophies.



Wilwood's Heavy Duty kits are fine, but avoid the drag race setup.....
I have the same rear setup as the ECI version with the Cadillac caliper and the MK VII rotors. I would go with the new wilwood setup with the brake shoes in the hub If I had to do it over.....
I am in the process of installing a MP Brakes booster w/ 4-wheel disk master cylinder. Nw that I'm in the middle of it, I am spending my time getting the clutch linkage fixed. The previous owner never replaced the bushings (in fact ran it without bushings) and everything is grooved/slotted.
Next Project....'99-up GT PBR calipers on my Granada front brakes......

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pyrofighting
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posted 08-24-2002 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pyrofighting   Click Here to Email pyrofighting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Then can I get just as good a deal for 4 wheel manual disc with all hardware and lines for $1500?

Peter

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Mpcoluv
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posted 08-25-2002 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mpcoluv   Click Here to Email Mpcoluv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pyrofighting:
Then can I get just as good a deal for 4 wheel manual disc with all hardware and lines for $1500?

Peter


I think you can buy the front and rear kits from summit for around $1500....
I would run a booster myself.....
I ran manual (wilwood master cyl for sale BTW) 4-wheel disks for about a year and was not super happy with it. Fine if you are Planning on stopping, but not so hot if someone pulls out in front of you in traffic.


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alanq64
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posted 02-16-2004 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanq64   Click Here to Email alanq64     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why not use an 8.8 out of an explorer that already has the disc brakes?

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