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Fastymz
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posted 08-22-2002 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It dosen't look hard to do,but can some one walk me thur it. PLEASE.
My front end is need of some work.I'd like to start with the strut rod bushing and go from there.DO I need any special tools to do this.

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kcode
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posted 08-22-2002 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kcode   Click Here to Email kcode     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scoop,
Bushings on a 65 are a piece of cake. In 67 they are part of the alignment process. One precaution, don't be surprised if you find the area inside the bushing all rusted to Hello. The bushings alone won't do you much good if the rest of the bushings in the upper and lower arms are in need of replacement also.

The struts will have to be unbolted from the lower arm to replace the bushings. Just remove the big nut first then the two bolts on the lower control arm. The biggest problem will be getting your nuts off

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mellowyellow
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posted 08-22-2002 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did you read that, Scoop!!

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Fastymz
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posted 08-23-2002 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mike what do I torque the big nut down to.Is there a certain number of turns the big nut needs to go on.Or do I just remove the big nut replace the bushing and replace the big nut as tight as I can,thats it.And should I use a poly or rubber bushing.
Mike with my back the way it is right,getting any nut off is not easy.

Pete thanks for the help.

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Dave Witthoeft
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posted 08-23-2002 05:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Witthoeft   Click Here to Email Dave Witthoeft     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can do anything. Your SCOOP.

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mellowyellow
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posted 08-23-2002 06:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's that ol' dance....The Mustang Strut! Not to be confused with Sally doing the Mustang Stroll.

You're gong to need an alignment after doing this. Don't you have any shops around that you could have do it. Not the most pleasurable job with a bad back. I know! Be good to yourself.

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Fastymz
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posted 08-23-2002 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mellowyellow:
It's that ol' dance....The Mustang Strut! Not to be confused with Sally doing the Mustang Stroll.

You're gong to need an alignment after doing this. Don't you have any shops around that you could have do it. Not the most pleasurable job with a bad back. I know! Be good to yourself.


What pay some one to do whatI enjoy.I'm going to try it myself 1st.

What do the strut rod big end nuts need to be torqued down to.

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Fastymz
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posted 08-23-2002 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey any one know what the BIG nut at the end of the strut rod needs to be torqued to.

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kcode
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posted 08-23-2002 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kcode   Click Here to Email kcode     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scoop,
Without pulling out the manuals, I don't recall a torque setting for 65-66. There is a shoulder on the end of the strut that the nut bottoms out on. If there was a torque setting you would get a different reading on the stock rubber bushing versus a poly bushing. Hope you get your nuts off......without too much trouble.

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Fastymz
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posted 08-24-2002 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mike I'll take my time,and keeping working at it until I get my nuts off.

One more question should I use a poly or rubber bushing???

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mustangs68
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posted 08-24-2002 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangs68   Click Here to Email mustangs68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One more question should I use a poly or rubber

Nay..I ain't going there
sam

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mustangs68
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posted 08-25-2002 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangs68   Click Here to Email mustangs68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scoop get it fixed?
sam

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Fastymz
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posted 08-25-2002 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mustangs68:
Scoop get it fixed?
sam

Sammy I'm working on getting it done.I just need some time off work and some pain pills.

And some advice on the Rubber bushing or poly ones.

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mustangs68
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posted 08-25-2002 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangs68   Click Here to Email mustangs68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scoop I have heard good and bad about both but the next rebuild I plan to go poly if that helps
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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 08-25-2002 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Go rubber, Scoop. There have been report of poly strut rod bushings causing rod failure due to being too rigid, and while I'm not 100% sold on that, the rubber style has been working fine on your '65 for 37 years now.

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69 Sportsroof
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posted 08-25-2002 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69 Sportsroof   Click Here to Email 69 Sportsroof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
Hey any one know what the BIG nut at the end of the strut rod needs to be torqued to.

SCOOP


Strut to lower arm - 70 to 105
Strut to underbody - 60 to 80

This is from my Haynes manual.

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Fastymz
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posted 08-25-2002 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 69 Sportsroof:
Strut to lower arm - 70 to 105
Strut to underbody - 60 to 80

This is from my Haynes manual.


Thanks that seems alot higher then I was thinking it would be.

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69 Sportsroof
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posted 08-26-2002 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69 Sportsroof   Click Here to Email 69 Sportsroof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
seems alot higher then I was thinking it would be.

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Same here.....

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Fastback68
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posted 08-28-2002 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68   Click Here to Email Fastback68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Definitely go rubber. I did a survey before, and there are 1.5 guys out there who tell you to go rubber to every one guy who tells you it makes no difference or go poly! As for the torque, I think those figures are too high.
If you REALLY want to get into a heated debate (assuming '65 rods are the same in principle, if not exact design, to '68), it's about which way to face the metal cups on the bushings. Lemme know if you want my survey results on THAT one

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