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Topic: Anybody ever strip a complete paint job by themselves ?
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70 Pony Gearhead Posts: 1783 From: Glenmoore, PA, USA Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 06-17-2002 07:12 PM
I'm sure a lot of you have....a bunch of questions...but I'll shorten it up... What;s the best way, what's the procedure, can it be done in a driveway if the EPA isn't looking (Like parking over a large drop cloth or tarp etc).. I see this "Airplane Paint Remover" cans at Pepboys...and some spray on remover...where you let it sit and scrape with a plastic scraper etc.... I'd rather prep the car myself if do-able...remove all the moldings etc..and just take it to be "SHOT"...avoiding oversprays etc... Or is it too much for an old dude who is impatient, and not real handy.. Thanks.------------------ EDDIE D Resto Mod '70 Sport Roof Arrest Me Red '02 GT, Torch Red "If I knew I would have lived this long, I would have taken better care of myself !" "U.S. Marines; First to go. Last to know !"
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I65Stang Gearhead Posts: 5816 From: Antelope, CA Registered: Jun 99
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posted 06-17-2002 07:20 PM
It is a whole lot of work Eddie! When I did the '65 I started by trying the aircraft stripper but its just too messy. You have to be careful to neutralize it or it will screw up your paint job. Getting it in nooks and crannys can cause problems too. I ended up being able to strip some of the paint off with a razor blade in the hot California sun (1/3 the car wasnt prepped before being repainted the first time over the original paint [yet another 4-5 paint jobs somehow went on over it]) but did the rest along with finishing the 1/3 with good ol' sandpaper (wet dry as I was getting closer to metal so as to not mess the metal up with marks). To say it took a long time is and understatement but it did save me a bunch of cash. When I do the next one, I am just gonna have it media blasted unless I am on no time schedule whatsoever and the car can sit for a long time . Just my $.02------------------ Tim M&M Member #35 1965 Mustang coupe, 200 I6, Holley 2300, Clifford header, true duals w/ 26" Smithys 1988 Mustang GT AOD vert, 15.810 @ 88.871 mph 100% stock w/ no traction 1976 Silverline Comoro 18' trihull ski boat, 188 hp 302 I/O, another toy https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/I65Stang.html [This message has been edited by I65Stang (edited 06-17-2002).]
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 30261 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99
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posted 06-17-2002 07:33 PM
Tons of work, Eddie. Strip the car down, then have a pro blast it while you sip a cold one. ------------------
'70 Mustang Mach 1, '72 Mustang Sprint, '94 F-150 MCA Member # 47773
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Fastymz Moderator Posts: 8610 From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240 Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 06-17-2002 07:39 PM
Eddie I did my 65,with sand paper.Lots of work and I even had two other guys helping me too. I never got the whole car done to metal. I'd have some one do it,like Steve said.Ron ------------------ 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Crager SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 30261 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99
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posted 06-17-2002 07:43 PM
To give you an idea, I've been stripping individual parts, like stone deflectors and cowl panels, for example, and I even consider them a ballbuster to get them the way I want them. ------------------
'70 Mustang Mach 1, '72 Mustang Sprint, '94 F-150 MCA Member # 47773
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bifs66 Gearhead Posts: 125 From: Maryland Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 06-17-2002 10:27 PM
I striped EVERY part of the Fastback (including the interior metal and fiberglas) at home with various brands of removers. A good one was the Mar-Hyde brand sold at Advanced Auto. I restored a part at a time... body, doors, fenders, etc. The restoration took years, so it wasn't too big/too messy of a job doing one piece to completion at a time. I never had any problem with residue affecting the final paint as each part was thoroughly washed with a heavy detergent and water rinsed after striping. It takes patience and multiple coats to strip all the layers of paint off. In my case, the car had many, many layers of all kinds of primers and paints (yellow, primer, green, primer, maroon, primer, white,,,,etc).------------------ Bernie Frank 66 Fastback restomod project 85 GT (preserved) 82 GT (original)
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skips69 Gearhead Posts: 187 From: Catlin, IL USA Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 06-17-2002 10:31 PM
It's hard and boring work either way you go. Stay consistent or walk away from it for awhile. The prep work is 90% of a quality paint job and show car appearance. I used the stripping method on my car to get through the first 3 or 4 different layers/colors of old paint, then went to the DA sander and kept stepping down in grits along the way. Wet sanded everything eventually, then on to primer/surfacer and much, much more wet/block sanding. I am glad I did not keep track of the hours or cost along the way, probably wouldn't have done it if I had known..........The end result is well worth it though.
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Slow65Stang Gearhead Posts: 113 From: Reading, PA, USA Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 06-17-2002 10:32 PM
I stripped the entire body on my 65 coupe with the aircraft stripper....WOW what a mess...depending on amount of previous coats ya better plan on at least 10 gallons of the stuff....ditch Schlep boys and goto a reputable paint shop...you'll get a better price per gallon. Just as forewarning, get some THICK rubber gloves, the aircraft stripper (in the blue can) burns skin BADLY upon contact.
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Slow65Stang Gearhead Posts: 113 From: Reading, PA, USA Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 06-17-2002 10:34 PM
one side note...if ya want some seriously good stripper contact Paint and Laquer (i always foul up the spelling) in Reading, PA on N. 11th street. They are great guys to deal with.
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70 Pony Gearhead Posts: 1783 From: Glenmoore, PA, USA Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 06-18-2002 07:21 AM
I would like to thank you all for talking me out of trying something that I would be very sorry I ever started. With my bad back, lack of patience and several birthdays behind me, with only a few more to go....I will leave it to the experts. I know Prep is the most important factor in a nice paint job, and would have liked to do it myself. Let's admit it...even for a guy like me.... ( a moron)...the job always seems to come out better if you do it yourself.. Thanks again.... SCOOP...looking for a part time job ???? You can crash with me and strip the '66...meals, board and $4 an hour...------------------ EDDIE D Resto Mod '70 Sport Roof Arrest Me Red '02 GT, Torch Red "If I knew I would have lived this long, I would have taken better care of myself !" "U.S. Marines; First to go. Last to know !"
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Fastymz Moderator Posts: 8610 From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240 Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 06-18-2002 12:40 PM
Eddie all that and $4 hour too.Sounds good to me. I alway knew I'd make it big as a striper. SCOOP ------------------ 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Crager SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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70 Pony Gearhead Posts: 1783 From: Glenmoore, PA, USA Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 06-19-2002 10:48 AM
Scoop...did I ever tell you about my part time job... Male Exotic Stripper at Nursing Homes... Good money, but those artritic figures putting dimes down my G strink , kinda hurt...
------------------ EDDIE D Resto Mod '70 Sport Roof Arrest Me Red '02 GT, Torch Red "If I knew I would have lived this long, I would have taken better care of myself !" "U.S. Marines; First to go. Last to know !"
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mellowyellow Gearhead Posts: 5469 From: So. Fl. Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 06-19-2002 11:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by 70 Pony: Scoop...did I ever tell you about my part time job... Male Exotic Stripper at Nursing Homes... Good money, but those artritic figures putting dimes down my G strink , kinda hurt...
Man!! You put a new spin on the word 'disgusting!!! Think I'll skip lunch?? Hey!! When are you going to the Keys??
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70 Pony Gearhead Posts: 1783 From: Glenmoore, PA, USA Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 06-19-2002 09:25 PM
PETE...FOR A RETIRED BUM LIKE ME...I HAVE NO TIME TO DO ANYTHING.. Don't ask me what I do...but I am overdue for an Outer Banks NC trip...and am really Jonesing for a Keys fix... My favorite month in Florida is JULY...honest...always had great weather..great fishing and I love when people say it's hot in FL in July.. Well in '93 my wife and I were in Clearwater Beach...it was 84 degrees (we were there from July 1 to 10th)..called our daughter and she was crying...It was 101 in Philly with 90% humidity.. Did you know that Miami Beach NEVER recorded a temperature of 100 or higher in the history of weather records... Me and my damn project cars...and at my age I work slower than a turtle..... I'll be there soon...promise..------------------ EDDIE D Resto Mod '70 Sport Roof Arrest Me Red '02 GT, Torch Red "If I knew I would have lived this long, I would have taken better care of myself !" "U.S. Marines; First to go. Last to know !"
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mellowyellow Gearhead Posts: 5469 From: So. Fl. Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 06-20-2002 07:29 AM
The hottest months are Aug and Sept. July is great but EVERY month is great in Fl. Remember those hot days in Chi-people dying in apts in the city. High humidity, temps over 100, big f*****g misquitos, chiggers,and maybe a week later the temp drops and you need a jacket. sucs. Temp never recorded over 100 on MB but off the record, on a summer pm, set out a temp guage and it's over-in the sun! Slower? Me too! Like the ol' bull, Eddie, walkin' down and gettin them all!!!! LOL! LOL! Well...a couple anyway!
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Ken&Shell Gearhead Posts: 608 From: Mocksville, NC Registered: May 2000
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posted 06-20-2002 10:05 AM
Dudes,, What is wrong with ya? The best way to do a proper paint job is to sand the paint off.. Power sander or Air Sander is the only way to go.. Stripping paint is a pain in the *ss.. and a lot of elbow grease.. Just plan on your wife pitching a fit about your clothes.. We are in the process of painting my car right now.. I removed the trim myself and am working on sanding her now.. I'll provide the beer and the pool breaks,, come on over.. We'll knock her out in no time.... shell
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70 Pony Gearhead Posts: 1783 From: Glenmoore, PA, USA Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 06-20-2002 10:55 PM
PETE.....Comparing FL to Chi Town or Philly is like comparing Afghanistan to Islamoroda..I'll be down shortly and will let you know... Shell...give ne directions....and I'll bring the beer.------------------ EDDIE D Resto Mod '70 Sport Roof Arrest Me Red '02 GT, Torch Red "If I knew I would have lived this long, I would have taken better care of myself !" "U.S. Marines; First to go. Last to know !"
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 30261 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99
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posted 06-21-2002 05:36 PM
Shell, be careful with the power sanders, too much heat can warp panels. ------------------
'70 Mustang Mach 1, '72 Mustang Sprint, '94 F-150 MCA Member # 47773
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Ponygirl67 Gearhead Posts: 930 From: Vancouver Island, Canada Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 06-21-2002 07:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by 70 Pony: PETE...FOR A RETIRED BUM LIKE ME...I HAVE NO TIME TO DO ANYTHING.. Don't ask me what I do...
So........honey.........what do ya do???????? Hehehehehe......enquiring minds wanna know!!! ------------------ Speed kills...drive a Chevy!!! The Mustang Stable Vancouver Island Mustang Assosiation '67 Purple Mustang Coupe
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70 Pony Gearhead Posts: 1783 From: Glenmoore, PA, USA Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 06-21-2002 09:46 PM
Well Inquiring Mind: about 16 hours out of each day I think about this sweet young thing from Vancouver B>C>...in the land called CANADA. The other 8 hours I dream of her. ------------------ EDDIE D Resto Mod '70 Sport Roof Arrest Me Red '02 GT, Torch Red "If I knew I would have lived this long, I would have taken better care of myself !" "U.S. Marines; First to go. Last to know !"
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Fastymz Moderator Posts: 8610 From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240 Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 06-21-2002 09:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by 70 Pony: Well Inquiring Mind: about 16 hours out of each day I think about this sweet young thing from Vancouver B>C>...in the land called CANADA. The other 8 hours I dream of her.
And you say I have a way with words. SCOOP ------------------ 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Crager SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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70 Pony Gearhead Posts: 1783 From: Glenmoore, PA, USA Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 06-21-2002 10:03 PM
Don't make me blush Scoop !!!!!!!------------------ EDDIE D Resto Mod '70 Sport Roof Arrest Me Red '02 GT, Torch Red "If I knew I would have lived this long, I would have taken better care of myself !" "U.S. Marines; First to go. Last to know !"
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Fastymz Moderator Posts: 8610 From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240 Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 06-21-2002 10:07 PM
I wonder if Donna likes Italian sausage. Thats a most for any girl,dating an Italian man. SCOOP ------------------ 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Crager SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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70 Pony Gearhead Posts: 1783 From: Glenmoore, PA, USA Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 06-21-2002 10:39 PM
Be careful Scoop...you may get a "Baccala" with talk like that.... ------------------ EDDIE D Resto Mod '70 Sport Roof Arrest Me Red '02 GT, Torch Red "If I knew I would have lived this long, I would have taken better care of myself !" "U.S. Marines; First to go. Last to know !"
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Ponygirl67 Gearhead Posts: 930 From: Vancouver Island, Canada Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 06-22-2002 01:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by 70 Pony: Well Inquiring Mind: about 16 hours out of each day I think about this sweet young thing from Vancouver B>C>...in the land called CANADA. The other 8 hours I dream of her.
Oh man....you are smooooooooooth Eddie!!! Hehehehe, HOWEVER my dear.....you never answered my original question........... ------------------ Speed kills...drive a Chevy!!! The Mustang Stable Vancouver Island Mustang Assosiation '67 Purple Mustang Coupe [This message has been edited by Ponygirl67 (edited 06-22-2002).]
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Fastymz Moderator Posts: 8610 From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240 Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 06-22-2002 02:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by 70 Pony: Be careful Scoop...you may get a "Baccala" with talk like that....
Your so right Eddie,I'll be more careful. SCOOP ------------------ 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Crager SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 30261 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99
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posted 06-23-2002 12:49 PM
Temptress, thy name is Donna! ------------------ '70 Mustang Mach 1, '72 Mustang Sprint, '94 F-150 Pics MCA Member # 47773
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Ponygirl67 Gearhead Posts: 930 From: Vancouver Island, Canada Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 06-24-2002 10:33 PM
He still hasn't answered my question......................... ------------------ Speed kills...drive a Chevy!!! The Mustang Stable Vancouver Island Mustang Assosiation '67 Purple Mustang Coupe
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70 Pony Gearhead Posts: 1783 From: Glenmoore, PA, USA Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 06-24-2002 11:31 PM
The answer to your question Ms Ponygirl.... After a wild and tumultuous life I have decided to search for ..... The Perfect Wave, The ultimate sunset, The meaning of life, The perfect woman, the security of my daughters future, Being part of my grandson's life. Between those hours...I "work" on my cars, I write...poetry and am in the first third of a novel. I spend as much quality time as I can with my friends. I love to fish (But don't do it enough). I spend time with my Mom, (the best)...I visit my Mother in Law...also the best. I love the sun and can lay in it and daydream for hours. I spend too much time dwelling on the past and worrying about the future...and if I'm not careful I can overlook the present. I "Date" 2 wonderful girls. I wait for the mail man to deliver my pension checks, then go to Pep Boys. And now I am spending too much time at the Coatesville Veterans Administration Hospital, getting poked and proded (about 3 tests a week so far this month) for exposure to "Agent Orange"... And at night, I lay down and try to figure out how the hell I lived this long. (Honest). I am never bored, but do miss the excitement and thrill of "Big City" Police work, and if I have a few drinks, I wish I was 18 again and back in the Marines. And I try not to forget to take my medications, for all of the above. ------------------ EDDIE D Resto Mod '70 Sport Roof Arrest Me Red '02 GT, Torch Red "If I knew I would have lived this long, I would have taken better care of myself !" "U.S. Marines; First to go. Last to know !"
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Ponygirl67 Gearhead Posts: 930 From: Vancouver Island, Canada Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 06-25-2002 01:03 AM
Well my friend.......that answered my question very nicely!!! Thank you for taking the time to include us in your life!!! Sounds like you live to the fullest and maybe have already found the meaning of life....... And TWO grrls....hehehe....go EDDIE!!!! Please let us know how the tests go ok? PS..and I still wanna be the first to read your novel!!! PS.....I live in the Salmon Capital of the world PPS.....your new stang is sweet....what color are you thinking of painting her anyways??? Since that was the start of this thread? ------------------ '67 Prowler Purple Mustang Coupe The Mustang Stable Vancouver Island Mustang Assosiation WHAT IF THE HOKEY POKEY IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT?
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70 Pony Gearhead Posts: 1783 From: Glenmoore, PA, USA Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 06-25-2002 01:22 AM
Donna...Thanks, John Mustang showed me some beautiful Salmon that run up your way.. I'm going to paint it that Dark Semi Metallic Blue I always liked on the 65 to 68 coupes..... And I'm not just schmoozing you....but I like your purple...also. The picture is 10 times better than the car, and right now it looks like a Blue Purple Krylon job.. I guess the guy was trying to invent his own mystic paint job. It looks blue in the pic..but really has a purplish tint over a blue over run paint job... would you believe he painted the chrome outside door handles...the same color ??? Honest...and there's overspray on the weld wheels and the brand new good Goodyear Tires.. I wanted to ask him if he ever heard of this new invention called MASKING TAPE ??? Yet there are some good new parts... new radiator, aluminized exhaust, U joints,front springs etc etc...brand new valve covers and wire looms..etc . I don't think he planned his resto properly, combined crappy work, with some good work..and got fed up... For it's condition...I really think I stole this car, I can add up the New parts and come up with over half of the cost of the car...and the car is pretty solid to begin with. Maybe I'll sell it to mystery man, so he can give it to Mystery woman...if she has a sensitive side but also a bad side to her that needs to be tamed.....GET IT GIRL ??? ------------------ EDDIE D Resto Mod '70 Sport Roof Arrest Me Red '02 GT, Torch Red "If I knew I would have lived this long, I would have taken better care of myself !" "U.S. Marines; First to go. Last to know !" [This message has been edited by 70 Pony (edited 06-25-2002).]
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Ponygirl67 Gearhead Posts: 930 From: Vancouver Island, Canada Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 06-25-2002 01:59 AM
ROFLMAO..........Sounds like she is gonna be a beauty, dark metallic blue will be nice!! Amazing the things some people will do in the name of saving time or a buck isn't it? What is the interior of the car like? Good shape? I just redid my front buckets over the winter...and I am still talking about it!! They turned out soooo nice!! Really worth the money I put into them.... Can't wait to see your pics as you progress with the resto on her!!! Keep us up to date!!! ------------------ '67 Prowler Purple Mustang Coupe The Mustang Stable Vancouver Island Mustang Assosiation WHAT IF THE HOKEY POKEY IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT?
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