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65coupei6
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posted 05-19-2002 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65coupei6   Click Here to Email 65coupei6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So if you get a radiator with out the tranny cooler built in what do you do with the lines? Also how much will it affect the tranny or should a seperate cooler be installed?

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johnmustang
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posted 05-20-2002 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnmustang   Click Here to Email johnmustang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Install a tranny cooler , heat is the biggest enemy a tranny can have. You can also send that rad back , and , get one that the tranny lines hook up to. Also if your engine is built at all , and or , you are running a high stall converter , you will want to run the lines to the rad as well as use a tranny cooler.

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Fastback68
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posted 05-20-2002 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68   Click Here to Email Fastback68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
John, is that right? If you have a separate tranny cooler, and if it's doing its job right, is there really any need to run it through the radiator as well?

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posted 05-20-2002 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnmustang   Click Here to Email johnmustang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Fastback68:
John, is that right? If you have a separate tranny cooler, and if it's doing its job right, is there really any need to run it through the radiator as well?

Just my personal opinion , but , yes I think it is best to get as much cooling to the tranny as possible. I have seen a few tranny`s go down due to insufficent cooling , and , a few of them had just the cooler without the rad for any help. It really is amazing how quickly ATF will break down when it gets hot for long periods of time. Alot of people don,t realize how much stress a tranny is under. Just my .02


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Rory McNeil
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posted 05-20-2002 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rory McNeil   Click Here to Email Rory McNeil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, the BEST solution would be to use the rad as is, & replace the C4 with a toploader or T5. That way you can also do away with those unsightly cooler lines too.
I supose as a last resort, you COULD either get the proper rad for use with an automatic, or run an external cooler.

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posted 05-20-2002 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68   Click Here to Email Fastback68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just removed the bottom from an original A/T radiator from a '68 Torino. It's the first time I've seen inside and I was shocked! The cooler for the tranny fluid is just a puny little double-walled tube about 7 inches long. It hardly seems worth bothering!

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posted 05-20-2002 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnmustang   Click Here to Email johnmustang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Fastback68:
I just removed the bottom from an original A/T radiator from a '68 Torino. It's the first time I've seen inside and I was shocked! The cooler for the tranny fluid is just a puny little double-walled tube about 7 inches long. It hardly seems worth bothering!

Doesn,t seem like it would do much , but , it does. Looks can be very misleading.

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posted 05-21-2002 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why not just install a good trans cooler.And go with the radiator without a trans cooler in it.

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65coupei6
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posted 05-21-2002 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65coupei6   Click Here to Email 65coupei6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Acutally what Scoop said is what I was trying to get at. I saw a aluminum radiator with out a tranny cooler. With a tranny cooler built in it would be $100 more. I figured I could get the radiator and a external tranny cooler. But it will probably come to same price.

Oh well..

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posted 05-21-2002 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnmustang   Click Here to Email johnmustang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 65coupei6:
Acutally what Scoop said is what I was trying to get at. I saw a aluminum radiator with out a tranny cooler. With a tranny cooler built in it would be $100 more. I figured I could get the radiator and a external tranny cooler. But it will probably come to same price.

Oh well..


I guess I just like the idea have having both , incase one fails , you may get those few extra seconds from the other , and , save the tranny. Just my .02

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posted 05-21-2002 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fastford34   Click Here to Email fastford34     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
go with a seperate trans cooler. even a cheap one is better than nothing. i run a framerail type trans cooler on my street rod.that baby works. from jegs or summit they range from 35 to 70 bucks.
by the way,i am new here and just getting started into computers. i posted a question in the classifieds by mistake,due to being late for my part time job. its about swapping a fmx for a c4. if anyone could help me with this,i sure would appreciate it. fords rock!!!

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posted 05-22-2002 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by fastford34:
i posted a question in the classifieds by mistake,due to being late for my part time job. its about swapping a fmx for a c4. if anyone could help me with this,i sure would appreciate it. fords rock!!!

I moved it to this forum. That should get you some good answers.

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posted 05-23-2002 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YOu can get a decent cooler for $40.

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posted 05-23-2002 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rockafellz   Click Here to Email rockafellz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, i've heard that using a separate transmission cooler is better, because in case the radiator/engine overheats, it won't affect the transmission fluid temp. That's what I have planned. I just haven't gotten off my a$$ to install it yet!!

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