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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv M&M #1240
Registered: Apr 2001

posted 03-30-2002 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz        Reply w/Quote
When I start my car,I get a real loud metal ring or tinging sound.
I think it's the start staying on the fly wheel to long.
What do you guys think it is.
It has always done it once in while for the last 4 years but this year it's getting more loud and it happens more and more.

Do I need a new starter and if so which one to use.With a 351w in a 65,with headers.

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V8 Thumper
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From: Phoenix, Arizona
Registered: Dec 2001

posted 03-30-2002 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper        Reply w/Quote
That's an auto, isn't it? Zoiks, if the starter is hanging up, ought to check the flexplate ring gear for dammage.

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=17026

That's the one I'm looking at, an itty bitty thing will clear the headers just fine. Concider a heat shield? Those 351W headers must run awfully close to the starter...

Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv M&M #1240
Registered: Apr 2001

posted 03-30-2002 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by V8 Thumper:
That's an auto, isn't it? Zoiks, if the starter is hanging up, ought to check the flexplate ring gear for dammage.

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=17026

That's the one I'm looking at, an itty bitty thing will clear the headers just fine. Concider a heat shield? Those 351W headers must run awfully close to the starter...


Yes it's an auto,and the flex plate ring gear shows some wear too.
My headers are shortys,so they are not to close.

Do you think a reg, rebuilt start would work too.

And how do I know for sure it's the starter??


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Dave_C
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Posts: 1123
From: Gadsden, Al
Registered: Aug 99

posted 03-30-2002 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave_C        Reply w/Quote
I would remove the inspection cover and take a look at the ring gear just to be safe. If you need a new one take a look at Powermaster.

I have been very happy with my Powermaster starter. 3 yrs old and it will spin my 13:1 383W easily, even with the timing locked at 38? initial. They have 3 levels, the lowest one is just a late model Ford mini-starter. They rate it at 160 ft/lbs of torque. $169 new from Summit. The $151 price from Summit ont he Ford starter is good as this is the same one. You can also get a rebuilt one from Auto Zone, etc for $89 + $40 core charge. If you get one from a parts store ask for one from a 92 F150 302/Auto.

If you want to step up to a stronger starter Powermaster has two stronger versions. One at 180 ft lbs, another at 200 ft lbs. I have the 200. Costs $199 from Summit, has a clockable nose piece so you an move it to clear headers, etc.

The Powermaster site:
http://www.powermastermotorsports.com/Racing/racing.html

Later,

David Cole

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V8 Thumper
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From: Phoenix, Arizona
Registered: Dec 2001

posted 03-30-2002 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper        Reply w/Quote
If the one you've got clears everything as is, then sure. Exchange it for a rebuild. To test it (if not to much a pita), I'd drop it out, use jumper cables to energize it and view the recoil. Does it snap right back? Or maybe it's hanging up on the thrust washer... check the drive gear for slop on the shaft as well.

A simple, cheap experiment would be to replace the starter solenoid, see if that helps. Even if it dosen't, it's allways good to have an extra one in the glove box.

Or, try jumping it right at the solenoid, with the key on. Remote chance, but it could even be in the lock cylinder. I doubt it, but that test is free

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