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mellowyellow
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posted 03-15-2002 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since being on this site, have seen many posts about painting. "Rattle Cans" have been a topic many times. Hear more bad things than good things. A good percentage of us do not have spray equip and a RC is the solution. I remember one post where a person knocked RC's and then went into this big dialog on painting his engine bay with state of art equip and high dollar paints, etc. Seemed like it was a "tell" about all his equip.

For interiors, have been using the RC's with good results. For my personal taste, I think gloss paint on doors, dash, etc is ????. Others may like it-that's OK. The RC cans by Metro have very good color match, look orig, and offer a finish like the vinyl. Besides, lacquer paints are getting harder to buy. Metro does offer it in quarts, though.

For engine bays, many like gloss, some like satin, like orig. To spray is probably better if urethanes are desired. Am thinking of painting my 68 engine bay body color-a big departure for me. Will spray, for sure.

For semi gloss, I'd go with the Krylon hands down. It gets an even better sheen when getting ready for a show, spray it with Pledge and wipe. AND IT'S CHEAP! For primer, Krylon offers a good primer!

For salt belt folks, not sure I'd go this route if I was going to be driving in salt. But many of you guys put your cars up in winter.

For undercarriage, I'd spray 'cause I have it. If I didn't Rusto-Oleum offers 7777 semi gloss spray and it's damn good.

Eastwood offers a lot of good RC's for different uses. We used their radiator paint on a 66 coupe concours car and it looked brand new! That car just sold last weekend for 17,500! And it's NOT a GT!

RC's offer a good medium for small detail work. Eastwood really shines in this area. And, they are a M&M sponsor. So much for my opin.

For folks who do not have spray equip.

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richard bohm
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posted 03-15-2002 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for richard bohm   Click Here to Email richard bohm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have to agree with mellowyellow here. a friend of mine likes to paint his cars with in rattle can white. his car are proof that you can get good results when you pay attention to details rather than the equipment. granted krylon doesnt last as long as say PPG paints, but that is due to paint quality not equipment.

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Fastymz
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posted 03-15-2002 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pete,I have been using the RC paint shop for years.
Yes good prep work is always the key to good paint.
I have always liked Krylon paints.
My interior is all done in Semi gloss Black Krylon paint.
I also like VHT paint for high heat,or their interior dye's are real good too.

It just so happens that the Krylon semi gloss black,is a prefect match to my black PPG primer selaer I used to paint the car.So chips are fixxed real easy.

Engine bays I like then all Semi Gloss black.But body color always looks cool too.
I'm going to paint the engine bay the under side all semi gloss black Krylon.And use VHT Semi gloss black high heat paint on block and acc.

SCOOP
Well known rattle canner.
I striped my 70 challenger with Krylon Gloss black,it held up for years.

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sigtauenus
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posted 03-15-2002 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sigtauenus   Click Here to Email sigtauenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mellowyellow:
We used their radiator paint on a 66 coupe concours car and it looked brand new! That car just sold last weekend for 17,500! And it's NOT a GT!

Who is "we"?

I agree with everything said about the RC cans, especially the Eastwood stuff.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 03-15-2002 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with you, too, Pete. If you are painting small parts or areas, it's a pain to set up spraying equipment. Even my touch up gun is a pain, with the mixing and clean up afterwards.

Just like you said, the only time it makes a big difference in on large panels where the fanspray shows up.

It also takes a bit of practice to get consistant texture with rattle cans, but lately I've gotten over the expectation of the first few coats being perfect and I let the areas I don't like dry, scuff them up a little and respray and it blends in perfect.

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Ken
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posted 03-15-2002 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken   Click Here to Email Ken     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mellowyellow:
Eastwood offers a lot of good RC's for different uses. RC's offer a good medium for small detail work. Eastwood really shines in this area. And, they are a M&M sponsor. So much for my opin.

I love those rattle-cans !!! I used Eastwoods "Underhood Black", "Diamond Clear" and their epoxy based "Chassis Black" when I refinished my engine compartment (see pic in photo page) and I was EXTREMELY PLEASED with the results !!!
Shake it up baby.........

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sigtauenus
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posted 03-16-2002 08:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sigtauenus   Click Here to Email sigtauenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mellowyellow:
For undercarriage, I'd spray 'cause I have it. If I didn't Rusto-Oleum offers 7777 semi gloss spray and it's damn good.

I became a big fan of POR-15 when I used it on my pick-up's frame. Worked awesome and has held up well. I'm going to give ZeroRust a try though, they seem to offer a similar product in RC form, which I'd use to do the mustang's undercarriage. They seem to recommend two coats for proper coverage and dries to satin finish, so I'm thinking of their red oxide and black colors. In the heart of the undercarriage, I'd paint the black first and then recoat with red oxide (color contrast helps ensure coverage with second coat), and in the other areas like up front around the engine bay/inner fender areas I'd paint red oxide first then cover with the black.

I had painted the entire front end of my car (stripped to the unibody at the time) with Rustoleum RC primer and satin black, and after 8 years there is absolutely no rust on any area I covered like that, although that may be more because I take care of my car than a tribute to the paint qualities.

The things I don't like is the Rustoleum has the enamel-like qualities of chipping off, especially on the fan and the inner fenders parrallel with the fan where any road debris gets flung while driving, although I must add that the primer hasn't chipped at all, just the black topcoat.

Also, I have a difficult time keeping it clean, it seems to hold dirt more than a gloss or semi-gloss finish would, although that was more likely caused by me not sanding the primer before topcoating because rustoleum red oxide primer has a very rough finish.

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mellowyellow
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posted 03-16-2002 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sig: "WE" a literal term, I guess. I was assisting in the final prep before resale on that 66 cpe. We even used their radiator paint on the fan pulley. Enamel goes on thicker and is more prone to chipping. One thing about 1613 Krylon, it goes on thin and doesn't cause build up. It can be easily touched up, also. I have Krylon on the 68 fan but think it should be shinier. Doesn't matter, 'cause it getting a 92 clutch fan LOL!

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stang106
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posted 03-16-2002 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stang106   Click Here to Email stang106     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is a good colour match for Ford blue engines?
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mellowyellow
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posted 03-16-2002 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THere a number of dead on matches
I use Plasti Kote # 224 Ford Blue. Some others will be posted.

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70 Pony
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posted 03-16-2002 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70 Pony   Click Here to Email 70 Pony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm with you 100% Mellow...I've got at least 200 pounds of "Rattle Can Paint" on the Pony...
I'd rate them...#1 Krylon....#2 Plasticoat, (for different applications of course.
Also found that BarBQ paint is great for headers...dries to a nice flat grey black finish, and does not peel...
Learned this after using Eastwoods brush on header coating...followed all curing instructions and even had the headers media blasted B4 putting it on....It was the only Eastwood product I had a problem with...I can tell you honestly it peeled in one day !!!!
And Eastwood is 6 miles from my house !!!!
By the way Krylon's semi gloss black, (I think) is the best for engine compartment.
Just my 2 cents.....

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