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thedave66
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posted 03-06-2002 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thedave66   Click Here to Email thedave66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
2 questions. I just put a edelbrock performer intake on my car and damn it woke it up. But it seems like it may be running rich now. Does opening up the intake richen up a carb? I'm thinking on jetting down again but want to make sure.

second, why is it on the origional intake the very last water passage is blocked off? That seems kind of odd to me.

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Fastback68
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posted 03-07-2002 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68   Click Here to Email Fastback68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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second, why is it on the origional intake the very last water passage is blocked off? That seems kind of odd to me.

The explanation I've heard (and I'm curious if the experts will agree) is that engines headed for cold climates had the passages blocked off, but those in hot places had them opened. I have a blocked passage on each side, and I'm wondering whether I should open them up.

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V8 Thumper
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posted 03-07-2002 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by thedave66:
I'm thinking on jetting down again but want to make sure.

dave


A set of headers will lean it right back out again

What carb are you running?
Has your mainfold vaccum dropped? Tried a simple idle mixture adjustment?
Greater plenum/runner volume will provide more efficient cylinder fill, which if your carb was borderline over-jetted before, could be acting rich now. Are ALL 8 plugs all black and sooty? Running stock ignition? Last one, I promise: What is your timing totaled out at?

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thedave66
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posted 03-07-2002 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thedave66   Click Here to Email thedave66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
already got headers Timings set for about 10 degrees, stock ignition with vacuum advance. Don't know if the vacuum has dropped, i'm running a edelbrock 600 leaned 2 stages with the purple secondary springs. Thats all I can think of at the moment.

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V8 Thumper
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posted 03-07-2002 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...and it's still rich? hmmmmmm...

Time to do a plug read...

Running rich at idle, under power, or WOT?

You are moving alot more a/f volume through that motor now, maybe more than that breaker-point distributor can keep up with... may need more ignition zap.

Purple springs? I'm not familiar with that color code... what "Hg rating do they have?

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thedave66
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posted 03-07-2002 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thedave66   Click Here to Email thedave66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i can't remember off the top of my head but they're the third lowest of the spring kit. So i'm thinking 5 perhaps? I'm going to try jetting down the secondaries, see how that works, and go from there.

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Moneymaker
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posted 03-08-2002 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The intake would NOT richen it up. If anything it would be the opposite. Try the mixture screws and check the float levels.

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V8 Thumper
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posted 03-08-2002 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Moneymaker:
The intake would NOT richen it up. If anything it would be the opposite...


The Man has spoken... disregard all of my bs!

Alex, can you go deeper with this?

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Fastymz
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posted 03-08-2002 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dosen't an after market intake allow more air in the runner do the larger area.

I know on my car,wth the stock intake it ran to rich with the carter carb.I added the RPM inake and headers and ext.And it seems to be running just right,never changed the jets or rods.

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Moneymaker
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posted 03-08-2002 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is more efficiant due to larger and longer runners, and therefore will create a stronger signal to the carb. That will cause the carb to want to pull more fuel than it is currently jetted to deliver. OK?

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