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dubstar
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posted 02-08-2002 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dubstar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I remember reading in a magazine about a 400 HP 289 Engine that pops right into a Mustang. If anyone has any information about this, or knows the website/magazine that info is posted on this,.. please please please pretty please let me know! Thankyou.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 02-08-2002 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I think it slides in with bear grease and uses dzus fasteners. I don't have the link, though...

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65_289
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posted 02-08-2002 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65_289   Click Here to Email 65_289     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isn't that the one with the titanium piston return springs, iridium muffler bearings, and liquid schwartz blinker fluid?

Seriously, for a 289 to make 400hp, it would have to rev quite a bit.

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ccode67
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posted 02-08-2002 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ccode67   Click Here to Email ccode67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bet that is one of Alex's engines for the Moneymaker Mustang????????

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Daniel Jones
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posted 02-08-2002 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daniel Jones   Click Here to Email Daniel Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a copy of it someplace. IIRC, it was a Joe Sherman built 289/302 with ported factory heads, 9.5:1 compression, Victor Jr., Isky 280H cam, etc. Claims big gains (and big piston noise) from reverse pin offset). Like all magazne articles, read it with some skepticism. Alex's pop up piston build up with more cam and good heads would probably be a better approach.

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SundanceKid
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posted 02-08-2002 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SundanceKid   Click Here to Email SundanceKid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I remember that article....they never quite made it to 400 if I remember right.

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dubstar
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posted 02-08-2002 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dubstar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well im restomodding my basic V8 66 coupe. i was thinking about only spending $1000 on an engine, but i want something with 400hp or the most i can get. Street/and maybe strip. i want a 289, but im willing to put in whatever.. any suggestions?

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SundanceKid
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posted 02-08-2002 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SundanceKid   Click Here to Email SundanceKid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
302 or 351W (if you don't have anything for the engine yet) either one will be easier to get 400 HP out of.

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Jeff
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posted 02-08-2002 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeff   Click Here to Email Jeff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any time the hp exceeds the displacement, the engine is progressively getting exotic. The easiest way to reach 400hp with 289 ci is to use a supercharger or nitrous. Using mechanical means, intakes, headers, cams, heads, etc., to achieve this goal gets pretty tough if you run pump gas.

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JAAZZY
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posted 02-09-2002 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JAAZZY     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you can get pretty close without anything really exotic. You need some ported aftermarket aluminum heads(I like the TFS heads) a port matched intake(Victor Jr.), 10.5-1 compression, polished rods(or aftermarket lighter ones if you want to spend the $$) and a carb that's dialed. After that's done you want full length headers and 2.5" pipes. I really liked that Isky 280H cam but I would suggest a cam just slightly larger. I shifted at about 6700-6800 with that cam but I think you might need just a tad more to hit your target. Obviously there are other details but with all the aftermarket heads available now I don't think it is unrealistic. In trhe end it comes down to the combination over the individual parts so make sure everything is designed to work together. It really would be easier with a 331-347 302. Just add the vintage valve covers and nobody will know the difference.

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Mpcoluv
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posted 02-09-2002 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mpcoluv   Click Here to Email Mpcoluv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dubstar:
i was thinking about only spending $1000 on an engine, but i want something with 400hp or the most i can get. Street/and maybe strip. i want a 289, but im willing to put in whatever.. any suggestions?


$1000 is not enough for a 400hp 289.
A stroked 351 would make reaching 400hp and still streetable a easier goal but not really cheaper.

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-09-2002 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, but $1000 won't get you a 400 horsepower prepped bare 289 block much less a complete engine. See our 300 HP for $1500 build up in the archives for a sensible and economical approach if you are interested.

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70SportsRoof
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posted 02-09-2002 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70SportsRoof   Click Here to Email 70SportsRoof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alex, where is that 300hp for $1500 build up in the archives? I can't seem to find it. I'm interested in using an approach like that for the '68 J-code 302 I'm building for my '46 Ford pickup.

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steve'66
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posted 02-10-2002 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dubstar,

Here's the link,

https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/005310.html

Enjoy,


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70SportsRoof
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posted 02-10-2002 02:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70SportsRoof   Click Here to Email 70SportsRoof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for getting the link SteveW, that is exactly the thing I need to make my '46 Ford truck fly when I drop the 302 in. Of course this will have to wait until I move back to Orange County...if any of you in SoCal see a black primered '46 truck this summer...watch out, I'll be packing a 300 HP 302...

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fordfan
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posted 02-10-2002 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fordfan   Click Here to Email fordfan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm lazy, going for a stroked 351

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-11-2002 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well you know what they say?

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