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66bondospecial
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posted 01-29-2002 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66bondospecial   Click Here to Email 66bondospecial     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm ready to put my hood scoop on my 66. Wondering the location (front to back obviously) to mount it. It's the 66 style of scoop on the gt350 in 66 and probably lots of other years. Any help is appreciated...

Thanks,

-Steve

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70 Pony
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posted 01-29-2002 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70 Pony   Click Here to Email 70 Pony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Steve...don't know about the '66, but when I put a scoop on my '70...I popped the hood and saw predrilled round holes, on the bottom skin, where the scoops would be bolted on by dealers etc.
Pop your hood and look for these predrilled holes on the bottom side of your hood...measure them, front, back and both sides and see if they match your studs on your scoop...if so...go for it..
If not ...try Tony Branda...they do a lot of Shelby and Cobra clone parts and may have a template..
My first oem Mach 1 scoop came with a template...when I changed to a Boss 429 scoop, I was on my own.....
Had to do a lot of measuring, over and over and needed a hole saw to make room under the skin...
I also noticed that the after market scoops, don't have real secure studs...I strengthened them with good epoxy and then Lock Tighted the bolts..
They will work loose...lots of air pressure hitting them..
Good luck

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66bondospecial
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posted 01-29-2002 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66bondospecial   Click Here to Email 66bondospecial     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My hood is a reproduction and doesn't have any marked holes to my knowledge, but even if it did it probably wouldn't help me. My scoop was originally a bond on, so I got creative and epoxied 4 bolts on to it. Sounds ghetto I know, but it's more solid than you might think... I'm going to press the scoop over a piece of cardboard to create a template for drilling, just don't know how far forward to put it (the scoop) on the hood.

Also, it's nice to get a reply that quick for once... I don't think that FordSix enjoys the same type of membership as you'all. Usually takes a little while. Thanks...

-Steve

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 01-29-2002 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think SteveW has that scoop on his '66. When he gets online, maybe he'll be kind enough to take a measurement for you?

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steve'66
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posted 01-29-2002 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll measure it when I get home this afternoon.


SteveW

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bgseib
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posted 01-29-2002 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bgseib   Click Here to Email bgseib     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey 66 bondo - I have a '65 scoop on my fastback - I can measure how far from the back for you. Just a thought - if you have not painted the scoop yet - the scoop I have already has the bolts built in to it.. And as far as the hood - they do not have any pre-drilled holes in it..
Here is what I did:
template in cardboard like you said
put tape on the hood where you think you are going to drill
tape template down
make marks on tape with marker
drill
*make sure bolts are not long enough to touch the air cleaner (I had this problem)
and the rest is common sense..

BS

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Fastymz
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posted 01-29-2002 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm here in Reno Nv.

I would go out get you the measurement on my scoop but,it would not help you at all.

I just keept eye balling it until I was happy with the spot,and made sure it was over the carb,1st.

SCOOP

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66bondospecial
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posted 01-29-2002 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66bondospecial   Click Here to Email 66bondospecial     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heh, no I don't suppose those measurements would help me SCOOP... can you see the road alright??? Not too shabby for 2400!

I bought the scoop with most of my parts from NPD all in one stop ($1500... OUCH), didn't realize until after that I wanted a bolt on. I think it will work fine though.

Looking forward to those measurements. Thanks again guys....

-Steve

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posted 01-29-2002 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 66bondospecial:
Heh, no I don't suppose those measurements would help me SCOOP... can you see the road alright??? Not too shabby for 2400!

I bought the scoop with most of my parts from NPD all in one stop ($1500... OUCH), didn't realize until after that I wanted a bolt on. I think it will work fine though.

Looking forward to those measurements. Thanks again guys....

-Steve



I can see the road in front of me,it's whats to my right thats not clear.

These guys will come thur,for you.They have yet to let me down.

Bondo special thats my car alright.It would be fast if I took off all the bondo.

With some more add on's and the new tranny waiting to go in,it's more like $3000 now.I want it to stay under $8000.Just a goal I set when I got the car,and my chevy loving inlaws and made a bet with me that I could not do it.
So far they are at $12,000+ and $15,000++.And niether one can out run me.

SCOOP

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steve'66
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posted 01-29-2002 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK,

Here it is,

These are the dimensions of a fiberglass hood w/an integral scoop.

From the rear forward,

2 1/2" to the rear of the scoop.
27 1/2" for the scoop itself.
22" from the front of the scoop to the front of the hood.
Hope that helps!

SteveW

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John Holloway
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posted 01-29-2002 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for John Holloway   Click Here to Email John Holloway     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Scoop,I'm Glad to hear you are still in Reno,When I seen the topic I though you were lost?

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bgseib
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posted 01-30-2002 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bgseib   Click Here to Email bgseib     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well - my dimensions are the same...

2.5" from the back Just make sure the bolts are short enough that they do not hit the air cleaner...

BS

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Fastymz
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posted 01-30-2002 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by John Holloway:
Hey Scoop,I'm Glad to hear you are still in Reno,When I seen the topic I though you were lost?

John LOL,you were worried.You should have seen me,I though I as lost too.

SCOOP

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Dave Witthoeft
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posted 01-30-2002 04:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Witthoeft   Click Here to Email Dave Witthoeft     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
John LOL,you were worried.You should have seen me,I though I as lost too.

SCOOP



Are you?

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70 Pony
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posted 01-30-2002 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70 Pony   Click Here to Email 70 Pony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you really don't want to see where you're going....put on a Boss 429 hood scoop like I did....I sit low, I'm only 5'8" and when I go over the crest of a hill, I got to lift up my butt to see where the heck the road is...
By the way...I did the same thing...making a template out of card board and punching my studs thru it...

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posted 01-30-2002 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eddie: Short chubby ex cop with an attitude driving a cool hopped up 70 Mustang with a BIG scoop. I'd love a picture.

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Fastymz
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posted 01-30-2002 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dave Witthoeft:
Are you?

Dave I'm right here,lost in M&M site for now.

SCOOP

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posted 01-30-2002 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 70 Pony:
If you really don't want to see where you're going....put on a Boss 429 hood scoop like I did....I sit low, I'm only 5'8" and when I go over the crest of a hill, I got to lift up my butt to see where the heck the road is...
By the way...I did the same thing...making a template out of card board and punching my studs thru it...



Eddie,I know what your talking about.I'm only 5'10"and some times my scoop get in the way too.I can see over it,just if your going over a hill and you need to turn right.
I love it,big scoop, loud exhaust, big tires, nonpower everything.If you guys saw me at work everyday looking like a GAP model.It's fun to get back to my roots on my days off.Car Tee-shirt and jeans,ball cap,cruzzn in my black big *** scooped 65.


SCOOP

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posted 01-30-2002 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the measurements, SteveW and BS!

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66bondospecial
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posted 01-30-2002 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66bondospecial   Click Here to Email 66bondospecial     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, looks like we're in business folks. Works out quite well actually. By these measurements, the front bolts will land right in the center of the brace on the bottom side of the hood. (Right where the big gap is...) Glad since I didn't bother to think about that when I was putting the bolts on...

Scoop, I'd like to fit my project onto a similar budget as you. Spent 3 large so far; I've got another 3 for the twin turbo 302... out with that pesky 200. Probably another couple on audio, new paint, and miscellaneous.

Anyway, thanks for the info., a very helpful forum; I'll recomend it to others...

Later,
-Steve

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posted 01-30-2002 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 66bondospecial:
Well, looks like we're in business folks. Works out quite well actually. By these measurements, the front bolts will land right in the center of the brace on the bottom side of the hood. (Right where the big gap is...) Glad since I didn't bother to think about that when I was putting the bolts on...

Scoop, I'd like to fit my project onto a similar budget as you. Spent 3 large so far; I've got another 3 for the twin turbo 302... out with that pesky 200. Probably another couple on audio, new paint, and miscellaneous.

Anyway, thanks for the info., a very helpful forum; I'll recomend it to others...

Later,
-Steve



Twin turbos your way ahead of me.
Sound like a cool car and fast one too.Enjoy that new scoop,they really help the looks of the mustang.My opinion only.
Hey get some pics up too.
SCOOP


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66bondospecial
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posted 01-30-2002 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66bondospecial   Click Here to Email 66bondospecial     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...and ditto, a special thanks for the measurements to SteveW and bgseib. Appreciate it guys. And if anyone cares I'll post some pics here in the spring when I'm mostly finished.

-Steve

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posted 01-30-2002 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, tell us about your twin turbo setup!

Start another thread, if you don't mind.

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66bondospecial
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posted 01-30-2002 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66bondospecial   Click Here to Email 66bondospecial     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oops, must have worded that poorly. I don't yet have the 302 in it... still the 200. I've got a spare 302 that my uncle is giving me and lots of plans, but it will be a couple of months before anything solid. Sorry to disappoint.

But if you still care... the plan is for two turbos out of the automatic turbocoupes running in a blow-thru setup. Will run low C.R. (around 7.5) forged pistons, and forged con. rods. Will run virtually all new performance components, probably a blower cam and a boost referenced fuel pressure regulator. I also will be adding a d-i-y water/alcohol injection system. I hesitate to even estimate horsepower, as there are many variables.

I can update you'all as the project progresses, but as I said - it's mostly plans for the moment. I apologize for misleading you, I made it sound as if I already had a TT 302 in there, which isn't the case and wasn't my intent... My bad.

Later,
Steve

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posted 01-30-2002 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No problem, it's cool even hearing about the plans.

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I had plans for my car for 10 years before I even had it.Plans are good,and sharing them is cool.

I always make three levels of plans,1st is the dreamer plan
2nd the mid level plan
3rd the one thats most likely to happen is the low budget,but still fun plan.

I'll stop I know you guys get sick of me going on and on.

SCOOP

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