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Gary
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From: Sarasota, Fla. USA
Registered: Jun 99

posted 01-21-2002 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gary   Click Here to Email Gary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this 69 Windsor sitting here screaming for me to plant it between the fenders of a donnor car. I was considering a 65-66 Mustang, I basicly do not not much about these two years but found a 65 here local without an engine for 600 bucks. It is a coupe (hardtop) it has rust in the wheel houses sooooo....was thinking of prostreeting it AND adding a Ronster kit from Mustangs Plus. +cowl hood,rear spoiler, side skirts etc.
Id like to use the Windsor, are there headers available for the 65-6 with use of this engine?, and what other clearence problems may I find doing this swap?
Thanks

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Dave Gibson
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From: Norfolk, Virginia, USA M&M#166 MCA#47921
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posted 01-21-2002 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Gibson   Click Here to Email Dave Gibson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gary,
It should be a pretty strait forward swap for you. Our '66 Coupe has a '69 351W in her right now. Plenty of clearance and it has headers on it already. One thing to keep in mind on your donor car. Was the car a six cylinder or an eight? You will want to beef up the suspension if it was a six cylinder car.

Dave & Terri

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Poison Ivy (Dave's)
'65 Fastback Modified 289 4V, C-4, dual exhaust, styled steel wheels, rally pac, A/C
Blue Belle (Terri's)
'66 Coupe, Silver Blue Metallic, 351W 2-V, 4 speed, A/C, future sleeper.

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n2oMike
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From: Spencer, WV
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posted 01-21-2002 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for n2oMike   Click Here to Email n2oMike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hedman offers both shorties and 1 5/8" long tube headers. If you want to get more serious, Hooker offers a set of Super Comps with 1 3/4" primaries for 65-70 mustangs. They are part #6208

Good Luck!

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Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
302 4-speed 289 heads
10.63 @ 129.3
http://www.geocities.com/carbedstangs/cmml_mburch.html
http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/healey/367

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Dr. Who
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posted 01-21-2002 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dr. Who   Click Here to Email Dr. Who     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My thought would be if your tubbing, and knockin off the top why not use a new front suspension and not have the towers to cramp the underhood, or leave the towers and move the motor back 18" and drive it from the back seat if you like wheelies .

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66351stang
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posted 01-21-2002 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66351stang   Click Here to Email 66351stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
drop's right in, i have one in my 66, i used shorty headers because i didn't want to install the steering extension.

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ponycar66,have you flown in a ford latley???????
66-COUPE W/351SVO
glad i had a v-8 !!!!!!
84.5 gt350-
have a great day!!!!!!!!

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Fastymz
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posted 01-21-2002 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Who:
My thought would be if your tubbing, and knockin off the top why not use a new front suspension and not have the towers to cramp the underhood .

This is the only way togo.
The 351w fits nice and go with the supercomp headers if you want to make power.

SCOOP.

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65 coupe,351w,RPM intake,Carter625,shorty headers,2.5 exhaust, Flowmasters,C4,open 8" 2:80,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,Crager SS,Black Suede.
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66351stang
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posted 01-21-2002 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66351stang   Click Here to Email 66351stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what i did do was replace the 351 water pump with a 289 pump, so i didn't have to change or modifie the radiator

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ponycar66,have you flown in a ford latley???????
66-COUPE W/351SVO
glad i had a v-8 !!!!!!
84.5 gt350-
have a great day!!!!!!!!

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kcode
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From: alvaton,ky,usa Suburb of Bowling Green, M&M #79, MCA #29208
Registered: Jun 99

posted 01-21-2002 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kcode   Click Here to Email kcode     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dang Gary,
You are a glutten for pain, either that or you are bored. Just get one finished and thinking about the next one.

If you are going the Ronster route, why not just do like Dr. Who suggested, get rid of the shock towers completely with a coil over set up and rack and pinion steering. If you are going that wild, why not do it all. Then theres enought room to pull your Bigum Block from the yellow car and put in the 65.

Mike

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steve'66
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posted 01-21-2002 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 66351stang:
what i did do was replace the 351 water pump with a 289 pump, so i didn't have to change or modifie the radiator


Actually with a '69 the water pump will work fine. Put some good aftermarket heads on it and it'll "fly".

SteveW

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Gary
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From: Sarasota, Fla. USA
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posted 01-25-2002 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gary   Click Here to Email Gary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the tips! Iv'e been following a few leads of cars to buy--they were total rust buckets! Im thinking now of finding a 69 conv. and building a sister car to the yellow Mach. I don't want to take a really decent car and modify it though because of their low production numbers. Anyone know of any 69 conv's that would like a new life? One that maybe has wrong engine or has no drive train and is rusty in the trunk area.
Being in FL. a rag top would be a cool ride, especially with a 528 or better BB
I have lots of parts left over from the yellow car and found a 460 with C6 to buy. Im thinking of just selling the Windsor, that way iv'e just swapped a small block for a BB without any cash out of pocket.

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mellowyellow
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posted 01-25-2002 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With your big block dreamin' you'd better check this site. www.RCMotorsports.net. Hey! Are you going to bring Yellow Fever to Pensacola MCA national show??

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Gary
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posted 01-25-2002 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gary   Click Here to Email Gary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Think that would be quite a long trip up there for this car, to bad I don't have a trailer for the long distance shows. Id be deaf by the time I got to the show anyway. I have a local show this Sunday and then another local show here in March.
Thanks for the link

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Dave Gibson
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posted 01-25-2002 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Gibson   Click Here to Email Dave Gibson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gary,
It's about an eight hour trip to Pensacola from Sarasota. My parents are in Ft. Myers. The show is March 22 - 24 and you can get more information at www.gcrmc.com.

Terri suggests getting ear plugs instead of a trailer. It's cheaper.

Dave & Terri

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Poison Ivy (Dave's)
'65 Fastback Modified 289 4V, C-4, dual exhaust, styled steel wheels, rally pac, A/C
Blue Belle (Terri's)
'66 Coupe, Silver Blue Metallic, 351W 2-V, 4 speed, A/C, future sleeper.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 01-25-2002 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dave Gibson:
Terri suggests getting ear plugs instead of a trailer. It's cheaper.

Wives all think alike! They must all be on the same channel!

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 M code 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 open
'72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Lok
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip
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Dave Gibson
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posted 01-25-2002 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Gibson   Click Here to Email Dave Gibson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
Wives all think alike! They must all be on the same channel!


You got that right Steve. Terri was talking about the cherry bombs on the fastback being to loud tonight. She does like the idea of putting a GT style rear valance on and running the dual GT style exhaust and tips. Of course an H pipe and two chamber flowmasters would also be needed.

Dave & Terri

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Poison Ivy (Dave's)
'65 Fastback Modified 289 4V, C-4, dual exhaust, styled steel wheels, rally pac, A/C
Blue Belle (Terri's)
'66 Coupe, Silver Blue Metallic, 351W 2-V, 4 speed, A/C, future sleeper.

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Fastymz
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posted 01-26-2002 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dave Gibson:
You got that right Steve. Terri was talking about the cherry bombs on the fastback being to loud tonight. She does like the idea of putting a GT style rear valance on and running the dual GT style exhaust and tips. Of course an H pipe and two chamber flowmasters would also be needed.

Dave,it's best to do what Terri says.

SCOOP

Dave & Terri


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65 coupe,351w,RPM intake,Carter625,shorty headers,2.5 exhaust, Flowmasters,C4,open 8" 2:80,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,Crager SS,Black Suede.
MEM#1240

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