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Topic: What build date makes a '65 a LATE '65...?
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The Iceman
Gearhead Posts: 1796
From: Shelton, CT
Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 01-21-2002 12:29 AM
   
Just a curiosity question here, when I bought BeeBop, she had a '66 grille (definitely not a new piece! haha).
Now that Ive added the '66 guages, the only way someone will be able to tell that I actually have a '65 is by the side moldings  My car was built in July of '65 according to the VIN (26th...? cant remember right this second haha, all i know is she was built the same day that my uncle -- whom I named the car in honor off - was born  )
So my question is, what build date is considered to make a '65 a late '65...?
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CrAzY Dan~
1965 Coupe "BeeBop" 200ci Straight "6"~2.77 3-spd w/Hurst Shifter~Pertronix Elec. Ign.~Flamethrower Coil~Flex-Fan~Clifford 6-2 Header~26" Smithys~3" chrome tips~'85 T-Bird TC buckets~'66 guages
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johnmustang
Gearhead Posts: 1695
From: Vancouver Island , British Columbia , Canada
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 01-21-2002 12:51 AM
The build date for my 65 fastback is April 19-1965, I would also like to know if this is classified as an early or late 65 car, as well as, if it is an early or late full pony interior.
JOHN
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70SportsRoof
Gearhead Posts: 350
From: Scottsdale, AZ, In the hot hot Valley of the Sun
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 01-21-2002 01:02 AM
Iceman, if you mean the cut off for what's called the 64 1/2 and 65 Mustangs it would be some time around mid August 1964. 64 1/2 had generators, slightly different hood front edge, different interior door handles, an optional 260 V8, 170 I-6, and a 289 V8 with the VIN code of D.Johnmustang, an April 1965 car is a "late" 1965. Pony interior was not an option until mid 1965, car has to have a build date of February '65 or later. Your car can have a factory pony interior.
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The Iceman
Gearhead Posts: 1796
From: Shelton, CT
Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 01-21-2002 01:10 AM
ah so i DO have a late '65, apparently a REALLY late one haha
thanks 70sportsroof! ------------------
CrAzY Dan~
1965 Coupe "BeeBop" 200ci Straight "6"~2.77 3-spd w/Hurst Shifter~Pertronix Elec. Ign.~Flamethrower Coil~Flex-Fan~Clifford 6-2 Header~26" Smithys~3" chrome tips~'85 T-Bird TC buckets~'66 guages
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mellowyellow
Gearhead Posts: 4414
From: So. Fl.
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 01-21-2002 07:11 AM
I think that Feb 1965 date would be correct-whenever they brought out GT's. Pony Interiors, After that time, the door and window cranks were screw on, possibly motor mounts changed on V-8 models, etc. There's probably more. I dont know at what point wiper mounting changed. My 65 GT has a March 65 date and it had later motor mounts which COULD HAVE been changed before I bought it-came with no engine. The exact date is probably not cast in stone because they used up older inventories. Early and late is in the eye of the collector.
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Fastymz
Gearhead Posts: 4787
From: Reno Nv MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 01-21-2002 02:27 PM
My 65 was made in April too.Yes I have the window cranks that screw on.As for the wiper mounting,I've never knew there was a difference.And my motor mounts are the 65 style not the 66.I'm so green when it comes to all the little dates and changes.But I do have a big hood scoop thats got to count for something.SCOOP ------------------
65 coupe,351w,RPM intake,Carter625,shorty headers,2.5 exhaust, Flowmasters,C4,open 8" 2:80,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,Crager SS,Black Suede.
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PonyDoc
Journeyman Posts: 59
From: Ft. Lauderdale
Registered: Jun 2001
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posted 01-21-2002 11:57 PM
Usually very late August or September was when the model year changed on the assembly line. I found a book that gave a daily history for the first year and they had Friday, August 14, 1964 as their cut-oof for 64 1/2, but Ford never adhered to any kind of schedule. I have a 64 9/10 that was built Aug. 13, 1964, and it has all the 64 1/2 oddities like hood and headlight buckets, 25 spline drive shaft, "A" on air knob, etc., but it's a "C" code w/ alternator- not 64 1/2 codes, so go figure out what was happening on the assembly line. If you dropped your wrench. 9 cars went by when you bent to pick it up!!!!
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cynot65
Gearhead Posts: 855
From: New York
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 01-22-2002 06:59 PM
It's really kind a funny but it does make sense. They were building these cars so fast that I'm sure there were many cars who had "any part available". PonyDoc, you might not be to far from the truth by saying that about dropping your wrench. All I know is that mine is a 65 and I'm rebuilding it as one (with a couple of mods along the way )
Tony C*------------------
65 Convertible, Vintage Burgandy/Standard Black Interior, 289, 4spd
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kcode
Gearhead Posts: 2133
From: alvaton,ky,usa Suburb of Bowling Green, M&M #79, MCA #29208
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 01-22-2002 10:17 PM
Dan,
Since all first year Mustangs were titled as 65's and all serial numbers started with 5 no 4 1/2's, late usually refers to cars built after the Feb build dates of the GT's.
My coupe was a Sept 64, it had alot of early stuff and late stuff mixed. Fan switch, mixed headlight buckets, early carpet. Its a guessing game on what they used in production.Mike
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mellowyellow
Gearhead Posts: 4414
From: So. Fl.
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 01-23-2002 12:13 AM
Mike: Remember reading it in one of the Perkins articles in MMonthly, but what was the approximate date of 5 bolt/6bolt change?
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 12790
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-23-2002 02:16 PM
MOst of what I know is based on Feb. 65 change over levels in published FoMoCo parts and service literature. That is the most accepted "complete" change over period. MM was built in that period and it has all of the "late" parts, except for a strange rug.
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