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67 Fastback
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From: Beaverton, Oregon
Registered: Aug 99

posted 01-14-2002 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 67 Fastback   Click Here to Email 67 Fastback     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I changed out the oil yesterday and took a test drive. No leaks, all was well. Drove to work in the dark this AM and upon leaving my car in the parking lot I noticed a trail of oil that lead directly up to my car, being I was late to a meeting I had to wait until lunch to check the car.

Oil was down 2 quarts. I looked under car and the drain plug was fine, yet the oil filter was spewing. Being I was in 'work clothes' and had appointments I had to get to, I took it to a small shop.

Seems when I removed the old Oil Filter, the gasket remained on the block (thought for sure I had checked). Popped it off, put filter back on and refilled low oil. All better.

First time in 30 years I messed up an Oil job, lol At least I caught it in time *Whew!*

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SteveLaRiviere
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From: Saco, Maine
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posted 01-14-2002 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Been there, done that, have the oily t-shirt.

You have to always look.

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 M code 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 open
'72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Lok
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip
'97 Probe GTS 2.5L DOHC

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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
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posted 01-14-2002 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll 2nd that always check twice.I forget the plug on the pan once and after the 3rd quarte was in,I notice all the oil on the floor.My pops looks at the oil then at me and says it works better when it's in the car.

SCOOP

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AKBOSSMAN
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From: WASILLA , AK USA M&M #743 MCA #40857
Registered: Oct 2000

posted 01-14-2002 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AKBOSSMAN   Click Here to Email AKBOSSMAN     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
I'll 2nd that always check twice.I forget the plug on the pan once and after the 3rd quarte was in,I notice all the oil on the floor.My pops looks at the oil then at me and says it works better when it's in the car.

SCOOP



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Fastymz
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posted 01-14-2002 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wanye slow down I'll never catch you at that rate.

SCOOP

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Dave Gibson
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From: Norfolk, Virginia, USA M&M#166 MCA#47921
Registered: Aug 99

posted 01-14-2002 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Gibson   Click Here to Email Dave Gibson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Never had a problem with the old filter gasket staying attached. Now the drain plug..........That is a very different story. LOL

Dave & Terri

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Poison Ivy (Dave's)
'65 Fastback Modified 289 4V, C-4, dual exhaust, styled steel wheels, rally pac, A/C
Blue Belle (Terri's)
'66 Coupe, Silver Blue Metallic, 351W 2-V, 4 speed, A/C, future sleeper.

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justgota65
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From: Plainfield IL
Registered: Nov 2001

posted 01-14-2002 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for justgota65   Click Here to Email justgota65     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
had the same thing happen to me (not on the stang though on my ford truck) It always happened on that thing.

First time I didn't notice till I was a mile or so away and hear a hissing sound... oil shooting out the filter.

Drove home freaked out and took care of it. since then I changed may 4 or 5 times, 3 of them the filter gasket stuck to the block

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Ron
computer geek by day, Gear head by night
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SundanceKid
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posted 01-14-2002 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SundanceKid   Click Here to Email SundanceKid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll tell you what it is definatly not a warm fuzzy feeling when you look down at the oil pressure gage and it reads "0"

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 01-15-2002 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by justgota65:
...oil shooting out the filter...

...Drove home freaked out and took care of it...


You must love mass destruction.

First rule of oil leaks or zero oil pressure is 'shut her off!' A few seconds can cost thousands.

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 M code 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 open
'72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Lok
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip
'97 Probe GTS 2.5L DOHC

"Speed costs money. How fast do you want to spend?"

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justgota65
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posted 01-15-2002 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for justgota65   Click Here to Email justgota65     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
pressure wasnt at zero, yet (when i say shooting I could see the oil like misting or spraying around the filter).. I have a problem where I make problems seem bigger than they are.

My wife hates it..

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Ron
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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 01-15-2002 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd still shut it down if it was misting or spraying.

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 M code 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 open
'72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Lok
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip
'97 Probe GTS 2.5L DOHC

"Speed costs money. How fast do you want to spend?"

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DidgeyTrucker
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From: Greenbrier, TN USA
Registered: Oct 99

posted 01-15-2002 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DidgeyTrucker   Click Here to Email DidgeyTrucker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a true story:
This kid was hired as a gopher at a local garage. They told him to change the oil in the shop truck. He drained it OK. He put five quarts in the fill hole in the valve cover OK. The parts counter guy noticed that the kid was climbing up on the fender and looking down in the engine. Then the kid would put in five more quarts. After a total of FIFTEEN quarts, the parts guy wandered over and asked him what he was doing. The kid said he had already put in fifteen quarts and the level STILL wasn't up to where could see it in the filler hole.

Tracy

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Rustang
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posted 01-16-2002 05:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rustang   Click Here to Email Rustang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've had a couple experiences with oil loss.

It was after dark and I was about halfway home driving my '67 from my buddies house (about 15 miles) when all of a sudden there was a car on my a**. Being the 17 year old punk that I was, I assumed the guy wanted to race. So I jumped on it and dusted him! This happened every straight stretch the rest of the way home, the guy finally flashing his lights when he'd get close to me. All this time I also noticed a ticking sound in my motor getting louder. When I finally pulled in my driveway, I discovered it was my buddy who was chasing me clear from his house! He jumped out of his car screaming I was loosing oil when I pulled out, and he was trying to get me to pull over! (Turned out the oil sending unit burst and the motor ran fine after that)

The other time I had the o-ring deal happen to a Turbo Coupe I had. My (ex)wife was driving it when she noticed the idiot light came on. She kept driving it, even after noticing smoke, a few more miles to her friends house where the problem was discovered. Fortunately I turned it in under warranty (I don't know why this car's knockin'!! ) The only damage was some scuffed pistons. I don't know if the Mobil1 I was running helped prevent more damage or not.

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kid vishus
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posted 01-16-2002 05:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SundanceKid:
I'll tell you what it is definatly not a warm fuzzy feeling when you look down at the oil pressure gage and it reads "0"


Yep, been there, done that. Right after a 8000 rpm burnout, no oil pressure, 7 qrts on the track.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 01-16-2002 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's my embarrassing story:

I had thrown together a 351C for an '86 F-150 I had, and my chebby buddy was helping me put it in. I was leaving the shop and he asked me how many quarts of oil it took. I said five quarts. What he meant was "How many quarts of oil did you put in it?" I thought he meant "How many quarts of oil do I put in it?"

{He differs from me. He fills his engines on the engine stand then installs them. I install the engine, then fill it with oil.}

So we get the rest of the engine together and start it up. I had already primed it, so there was about a quart of oil in it. It starts up and there's no oil pressure and it's clattering like mad. I shut it off after half a minute of waiting for the oil pressure gauge to come up, and I start wondering what the heck was going on and just then my eyes fall to a box in the corner with five full quarts of oil in it.

It ran much quieter with the oil in it.

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 M code 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 open
'72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Lok
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip
'97 Probe GTS 2.5L DOHC

"Speed costs money. How fast do you want to spend?"

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Lennie
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posted 01-16-2002 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lennie   Click Here to Email Lennie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Back in the early 70's my Dad had a Custom 36 Ford Pickup with a Hipo 289. Radiator fluid at that time was near $10 a gallon and we were completely flushing the system. We open the petcock, drain all the old fluid, flush the system and the Dad starts adding new Antifreeze. I said, "Hey Dad, why is it still coming out of the bottom of the truck?" He said "Oh that's just some that was still on the frame and it's dripping off."

Me being 10 or 11 years old thought, ok that makes sense, even though there was alot of dripping going on down there. Dad puts in a full gallon of antifreeze and a gallon of water and wonders why that radiator isn't even close to being full yet. He get down under the truck and realizes that the petcock was still open. He gets up from under the truck, looks at me and asks "Why didn't you tell me there was antifreeze coming out still?"

I just looked at him and said "I thought it was just some left over that was dripping from the frame!"

30 years later and we still laugh about that one.......

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7DMACH1
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posted 01-16-2002 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7DMACH1   Click Here to Email 7DMACH1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I first started at the Dealership the owners son was off from school for the summer. They gave hime a job doing lubes and oil changes. They told him to be sure he greased all the fittings. He started yelling for help. "What's the matter", "I can't get the grease gun off this grease fitting". He was greasing the brake bleeder !! LOL RAY

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RAY . FLY THE FLAG, SHOW THE WORLD WE ARE PROUD AMERICANS!70 MACH 1 351C NOW 408 STROKER 4SPD.
86 MERCURY CAPRI 5.0 RUNS 12.86 @107 1.65 60 ft.
2001 LINCOLN LS V8 1997 MUSTANG
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