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Fastback68
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posted 11-18-2001 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68   Click Here to Email Fastback68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I need another beginner's class Three questions ...
1) I just jacked the car up to replace my strut rod bushings, and then thought, nah, this isn't right. Should I remove the strut rods with the suspension fully loaded, or with jacks taking most of the weight and the wheels just touching the ground?
2) My driver's side bushings are completely mashed but the ones of the passenger's side are fairly good. Assuming they were both changed at the same time, any idea why this might be?
3) Before I set off for a realignment, is it enough just to make sure both sets of bushings are more or less in the same position?
Many thanks!
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Fastback68
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posted 11-18-2001 06:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68   Click Here to Email Fastback68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just me again! Re: positioning of the bushings prior to alignment, I see in my Osborn manual that the rear nut of the whole assembly should be "approx. 4.62" from something else - but from what I'm not sure. Also, what does 4.62 mean? Inches? Strange. That would be mixing imperial and metric, and also 4.62 anything is hardly "approx"!

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unklshu
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posted 11-18-2001 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for unklshu   Click Here to Email unklshu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is a tuff one Simon, I did my front suspension blindly and tried as best as I could to get it close and then took it slowly to the allignment shop.

Good luck.

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Clark
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posted 11-18-2001 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Clark   Click Here to Email Clark     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Simon,
If you raise the car with the suspension just hanging it will put a good load on the rods. You need to put some load on the lower control arm relieve this. The measurement they are talking is tough to figure out but I know on mine it was about 7 threads showing to the nut so I went back with that until I get an alignment. The wear could just be from one side wearing out parts first because these take quite a load in turns, hope this helps.

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Fastback68
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posted 11-19-2001 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68   Click Here to Email Fastback68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks guys! I get the picture. The strut rods came off nicely with the car on the ground. Now for the bad news ... I found out why the bushings on one side were mashed. Bent strut rod! I'm so down I'm gonna start a new thread

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Fastymz
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posted 11-24-2002 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How can I get under the car to unbolt the strut rods with the car on the ground.Is there another way of doing this.Or dose it matter if the cars on jack stands or ramps or on the ground to replace the strut rod bushing on a 65.


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Fastback68
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posted 11-25-2002 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68   Click Here to Email Fastback68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well Scoop, here's the deal on a '68. How different can it be?
If you're changing the bushings, you don't need to remove the strut rods, but if that's what you want to do, you have to turn your head on your side as you go under, especially if you have a longish nose like me. The bolts that connect the strut rods to the lower control arms are very special. Remove the nuts on the bottom and tap the bolts out. Don't turn them in their holes or you'll wreck the splines.
Like I said, if you're just doing the bushings, there's no need for this as there plain to see up front. You'll need a special armory of large ring spanners though.

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posted 11-25-2002 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the tips.


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posted 11-26-2002 02:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Calcat   Click Here to Email Calcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a 68 as well and recently did my steering/suspension. I don't see how you could change the bushings without removing the strut rods as each rod has a bushing on the inboard and outside side of the bracket.
Yes you can change the bushings with them unloaded. But when you go to set the strut rod nut, then the LCA should be loaded.

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Fastymz
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posted 11-26-2002 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Calcat:
I have a 68 as well and recently did my steering/suspension. I don't see how you could change the bushings without removing the strut rods as each rod has a bushing on the inboard and outside side of the bracket.
Yes you can change the bushings with them unloaded. But when you go to set the strut rod nut, then the LCA should be loaded.

Now that makes more sense thanks.

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Fastback68
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posted 11-26-2002 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68   Click Here to Email Fastback68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you saying I didn't make any sense? You'd be right. I completely forgot that I did, in fact, remove my strut rods when I replaced the bushings.

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posted 11-26-2002 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fastback68:
Are you saying I didn't make any sense? You'd be right. I completely forgot that I did, in fact, remove my strut rods when I replaced the bushings.

YES but you said it so well,I wasn't going to say anything.

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