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Topic: Help Moneymaker or someone that can help :o)
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Stang28965
Gearhead Posts: 176
From: Webster New York USA
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 10-20-2001 09:59 AM
   
Here are pictures of the heads on my 289, I was told they are 302 heads but I have no idea what year  http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=113040&page=3Can you maybe help me figure this out by the pic? I also wanted to know what I have to buy to get a cam with more lift, I'd like to go the cheapest way. Right now I either have 420 or 440 lift but I want a more loapy sound. Can you help me out pelase? THANKS!
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Stang28965
Gearhead Posts: 176
From: Webster New York USA
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 10-20-2001 10:05 AM
This might help it has 8A14 stamped on the inside of the head. They seem like screw in studs and have a metal like valley going across each stud. something like this "[" but level.
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 17955
From: Saco, Maine MCA # 47773
Registered: May 99
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posted 10-20-2001 11:50 AM
By the pedestal mount rocker arms, they are later 302 heads. 8A14 is a date code, meaning January 14, '_8. It could be '78 or '88, depending on the casting number, which is under the intake ports in the lifter valley area.For the cam reccomendation, what do you have so far, such as carb, exhaust, tranny, rear gears? ------------------
'70 Mustang Mach 1 M code 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 open
'72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Lok
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Stang28965
Gearhead Posts: 176
From: Webster New York USA
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 10-20-2001 12:05 PM
I have the stock barrel manifold. My carb is a holley 600cfm mechanical secondarys. Rear gears are 3.55's 4 speed transmission exhaust is stock manifolds with an h-pipe and dynomax mufflers. But I will be going to tri-y's and flowmaster mufflers when i get the money.  Thanks
-Jeff
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 10-20-2001 02:42 PM
They are definatly 82 or newer heads from the top anyway. They should have smog holes in the front and rear that are plugged? ------------------
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Stang28965
Gearhead Posts: 176
From: Webster New York USA
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 10-20-2001 02:57 PM
Yup it has the plugged holes for smog. Any idea what the highest lift cam I can use would be? I want a loapy sound. If I can get the sound can you tell me what upgrades I need?
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franklin
Gearhead Posts: 109
From: VA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 10-20-2001 07:53 PM
These later heads have large combustion chambers don't they? With a 289 wouldn't this make for low compression? I am just butting in the conversation to say wouldn't he be ahead of the game to get heads with smaller chambers?
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Stang28965
Gearhead Posts: 176
From: Webster New York USA
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 10-21-2001 09:09 AM
So... Any advice on what cam i could use w/o modification. And what parts I'd need if I wanted a bigger cam?
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Moneymaker
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Registered: May 99
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posted 10-21-2001 10:58 AM
I would need to know if it is a hydraulic roller or not first Jeff. ------------------
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Stang28965
Gearhead Posts: 176
From: Webster New York USA
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 10-21-2001 11:18 AM
I have no clue! How can I tell. I am sure its what it was when it was stock.
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
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posted 10-21-2001 11:24 AM
You will have to pull the intake to know for sure. ------------------
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Stang28965
Gearhead Posts: 176
From: Webster New York USA
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 10-21-2001 11:32 AM
Well I know what everything looks like. What would I be seeing if it was one or the other?
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Stang28965
Gearhead Posts: 176
From: Webster New York USA
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 10-21-2001 04:22 PM
Yes it is hydraulic with non roller lifters. Sorry I did not know at first bare with me please [This message has been edited by Stang28965 (edited 10-21-2001).]
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Moneymaker
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posted 10-22-2001 12:56 AM
Then a Comp 270H is nice for starters. ------------------
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Stang28965
Gearhead Posts: 176
From: Webster New York USA
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 10-22-2001 06:05 AM
Thanks, So my setup now can handle that cam fine? Will I get a better sound? thanks again. With the new style heads do I even have 9 to 1 compression?[This message has been edited by Stang28965 (edited 10-22-2001).]
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 9546
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 10-24-2001 06:50 PM
Rumpety, rumpety, rumpety rumpety, rumpety.  ------------------
Alex Denysenko
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 17955
From: Saco, Maine MCA # 47773
Registered: May 99
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posted 10-24-2001 07:46 PM
That's a great cam. ------------------
'70 Mustang Mach 1 M code 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 open
'72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Lok
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip
'97 Probe GTS 2.5L DOHC Recycle --- Restore a Classic Mustang!
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mustangs68
Moderator Posts: 12581
From: Hampton,Virginia,USA 1968 Fastback & 1995 Vert MCA#39406 M&M #12
Registered: May 99
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posted 10-25-2001 09:56 PM
That cam rocks!I'm using it in my 289 and he!! with how well it runs,the sucker sounds mean has a pi$$ed off Rattlesnake sam
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Stang28965
Gearhead Posts: 176
From: Webster New York USA
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 10-26-2001 06:26 AM
Thanks guys, Sounds like an awesome cam, I'll have to put it in this winter, Did you do any upgrades to your heads? Or did u just leave them stock? thanks again
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mustangs68
Moderator Posts: 12581
From: Hampton,Virginia,USA 1968 Fastback & 1995 Vert MCA#39406 M&M #12
Registered: May 99
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posted 10-26-2001 08:33 PM
When rebuilding the engine the orginal heads were replaced with World Product Windsor Jrs and compression was bumped to 10 to 1 using new pistons...only thing left of the orginal engine is the block which is now bored .30 over.
sam
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