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cynot65
Gearhead Posts: 698
From: Long Island
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 09-27-2001 07:49 AM
   
We all know that there are a few obvious differences betwen the 64 1/2 and 65 models i.e. Generator, Alternator etc., but here are a few others that I want you to identify. I'll mention an item, you'll say what year.
1. 5" wide Mustang emblem.
2. Horns mounted 0on the radiator core support.
3. No convertible braces in the engine compartment.
4. Color keyed door lock knobs.
5. Single position passenger seat.
6. Black, White or Tan convertible top color option.
7. Door outer weather strip has black beading.
8. Coil horizontal on intake manifold.
9. Five blade fan with clutch.
10. Seat belts retained by hex head machine bolt.
With having the next 4 days off, I'll be able to give the answers to this post no later than Friday.
Tony C* ------------------
65 Convertible 289 4spd
M&M Member#450
It ain't done yet, but it'll be done right!!
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Boss Hoss
Journeyman Posts: 79
From: Georgia
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 09-27-2001 10:06 AM
I'm not sure about when most of those items started, but I do know that the horns were mounted on the radiator support starting with the late 1965 models. Horns mounted on the bottom frame supports, just in front of the engine, are a characteristic of 1964-1/2 cars.One other difference concerning the horns: 1964-1/2 horns are larger than 1965 horns. Am I right? Am I right? What do I win??? Just kidding!  ------------------
*andy* ([email protected]) also known as...***Boss Hoss*** *1965 Mustang 289 coupe*
*1996 Mustang GT coupe*
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Boss Hoss
Journeyman Posts: 79
From: Georgia
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 09-27-2001 10:08 AM
One more thing: I would really be curious to know when they started mounting the coil horizontally on the intake manifold! I know they did it, but I have always wondered when that started.------------------
*andy* ([email protected]) also known as...***Boss Hoss*** *1965 Mustang 289 coupe*
*1996 Mustang GT coupe*
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mellowyellow
Gearhead Posts: 2267
From: So. Fl.
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 09-27-2001 02:45 PM
1. 65- 4 7/8" by the way! vs. 4 1/2 !
2. 65. Location there with smaller horns
with intro of alternator Aug 64
3. 64.5- but this carried into 65 and at some
point, they started installing them
4. 64.5 but they may have started the chrome
one's later on
5. 64.5 but the later ones had the adjustable
seat. I know because I had a D code cv
that had it.
6. BLack, white, tan and blue is listed for
65 but I think they may have been offered
in 64.5 66 lists black and white but I
bet they wouldn't be gigged for blue, tan.
7. 64,5
8. Not sure. The bracket allows for either
way-seen both on 65. I'd bet you would
probably see both
9. I have one that came off a 65 and it has
C-5 part no. Don't recall seeing a clutch
fan on a 64.5 AC car. Not sure about that
10.65There was a lot of overlapping between the 2 ie 64.5 hoods well into 65 production as well as heater motors, headlight buckets and possibly core supports. 64.5's are difficult to judge. Some had pvcs, others had road tubes, some had oil bath aircleaners, others didn't. Even the carriage bolt trunk holddown went into 65. I remember a heated argument about the smaller AT selecter handle that was on 64.5. They're neat cars, though!
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cynot65
Gearhead Posts: 698
From: Long Island
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 09-27-2001 06:28 PM
According to the Tom Corcoran book "Mustangs 64 1/2 to 68" 64 1/2 production started on March 17th 1964 and ended on August 17th 1964. The 1965 production started August 22nd 1964 to Aug 17th 1965.
It's widely known that many of the changes started before and after the Aug 22 changeover mainly due top the stocking of parts. When the old parts ran out before aug 22 they just started using the newer ones. If they still had parts from the "halfers" they used them up on the 65's. Many of the changes were ones that were never "seen". Each difference is important to the restoration process.
I'll give a hint... there are five answers per car.
Boss, as far as that coil question, I'll leave that to the experts.
pony boy, do you know?
Tony C* ------------------
65 Convertible 289 4spd
M&M Member#450
It ain't done yet, but it'll be done right!! [This message has been edited by cynot65 (edited 09-27-2001).]
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cynot65
Gearhead Posts: 698
From: Long Island
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 09-28-2001 08:36 AM
Here are the answers
1-65
2-65
3-64.5
4-64.5
5-64.5
6-65
7-64.5
8-64.5
9-65
10-65
As it stands, today I will be receiving my new laptop. I bought a new Titanium G-4 Mac with all the bells and whistles. Most importantly because my job keeps me from home 4 nights a week I'll be able to communicate with my family and the rest of the world via the net. What does that mean for us? is that Tuesday Trivia will be able to get back to being on Tuesday. See you then
Tony C*------------------
65 Convertible 289 4spd
M&M Member#450
It ain't done yet, but it'll be done right!!
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Boss Hoss
Journeyman Posts: 79
From: Georgia
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 09-28-2001 09:45 AM
All of the things that you said are unique to '65 cars are true of my '65 car, except the 5-blade fan w/clutch. Was this only installed when certain other options were present? I ask this because my '65 engine has a 4-blade fan with no clutch...just your regular 289 fan. I have always thought my engine was pretty much correct all around.------------------
*andy* ([email protected]) also known as...***Boss Hoss*** *1965 Mustang 289 coupe*
*1996 Mustang GT coupe*
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mellowyellow
Gearhead Posts: 2267
From: So. Fl.
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 09-28-2001 11:08 AM
The clutch fan was installed on AC. cars. Pretty much in agreement except for No. 3. I,m going to tell the guy here with the October car that he's not original without braces. That definitely came about in the 65 run. I'm reminded of the recent article about Bob Perkins very early 66 coupe with 2200 miles!!. The owner before him took the car to an MCA show and it only took 3rd place because an MCA judge gigged him 25 points for 65 seat pattern uph!! HELLO!!!! There was paper work to support that. FOrd was not one to keep exact dates for transitions. They made changes on say Feb 1 for something, but if they still had old inventory it was going to go down the line until used up. Thanks for doing the Tues Trivia. I certainly enjoy it! Fun!!
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cynot65
Gearhead Posts: 698
From: Long Island
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 09-28-2001 02:55 PM
I certainly enjoy doing it too!!! I may not be the expert I'd like to be but this was set up to have some fun and give out some possibly new info to those who want to know. We've had some pretty good discussions about many of the topics I've chosen and have been proven to be mistaken too. I'll keep it up.
BTW This post is coming from my brand new Titanium G4 laptop. I love it!!!!!
Tony C*------------------
65 Convertible 289 4spd
M&M Member#450
It ain't done yet, but it'll be done right!!
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