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Topic: new question about my 9 in
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dhearn
Gearhead Posts: 123
From: Owenton Ky,USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 11-28-2000 09:44 PM
   
OK guys I jacked up the right rear wheel with the car out of gear and the wheel would turn and the drive shaft turned. But when I put it in gear it clicked a couple of times when I tried to turn it, then it would not turn at all. I did the same with the left rear no clicks but it also would not turn.I then jacked up both wheels with the car still in gear and turned the left rear and the right turned the opposite way......tell me if I have an open rear or something else please.......
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 8393
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 11-28-2000 09:53 PM
If they turn in opposite directions then you do not have a posi.  Alex------------------
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Amherst
Gearhead Posts: 165
From: Amherst, WI, USA
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 11-28-2000 10:00 PM
Didn't you say that when you punch it, the car leaves burners from both tires? Would a malfunctioning limited slip allow you to do both? I have no idea, just posing a question to the guru's.
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dhearn
Gearhead Posts: 123
From: Owenton Ky,USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 11-28-2000 10:04 PM
then why would it leave two black marks cause I thought an open would only spin one wheel sorry for all the silly questions but I really dont know much about rear ends and I am trying to decide whether or not to spent the money on the cobrajet axles I have found that will go with the 350:1 traction loc center section that I already have
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dhearn
Gearhead Posts: 123
From: Owenton Ky,USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 11-28-2000 10:07 PM
yeah it leaves two burners and gets pretty squirrly too also spins both when I hit second
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 2074
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 11-28-2000 11:31 PM
dhearn,You might have a "locker" in the rear. I've never checked any of my locker equipped rears in the way you checked yours. I'll get back to you tommorrow. Open it up and check it out! Can you do the ring gear swap I spelled out in your last thread? ------------------
SteveW So many Chebbies, so little time!
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TomP
Moderator Posts: 2262
From: Delta BC Canada
Registered: Dec 99
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posted 11-29-2000 04:27 AM
a Detroit Locker wont turn the other side backwards ,but it will allow one side to turn without the other side when you check it without the tires on ground since it'll be unlocked. Some other types like Gleason Torsen and GoldTrack are like this too,it takes driving force to lock them. A normal posi does too...there isnt much preload,and when the clutches are worn as in most cases (they don't last!) it will behave as a non-posi when jacking the wheels up,even tho the thrust from the spiders may still allow it to engage under load. Easiest way to tell...take filler plug out of the side of the third member,look in the hole...if the bolt heads are 5/8" and surrounded by a raised ridge...posi ... if 3/4" heads and sitting on open flat area it is an open...or perhaps a non stock unit.
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dhearn
Gearhead Posts: 123
From: Owenton Ky,USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 11-29-2000 04:32 AM
Steve,
If I decide to change it out I am sure that if I have any problems you guys here will help me through it. I want to thank every one for your patience and help identifying what rear end I have.
Dennis Hearn
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dhearn
Gearhead Posts: 123
From: Owenton Ky,USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 11-29-2000 04:34 PM
thanks to all for the advise and help and I sure hope you guys dont get tired of stupid questions cause I am full of them. this is my first mustang restoration and I am learning a lot. if anyone is interested here is a pic of my car before I started on it (well it dosent look much different now other than it does run now....)http://hometown.aol.com/dhearn1260/myhomepage/auto.html
Dennis
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 14060
From: Saco, Maine MCA # 47773
Registered: May 99
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posted 11-29-2000 05:55 PM
Nope Dennis, not stupid at all. Welcome to our brotherhood of Ford freaks! ------------------
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nash
Journeyman Posts: 30
From: Nashville, TN, USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 11-30-2000 05:34 PM
I am confused. I have a 9" rear end that I can turn the pinion and both wheels rotate the same direction, if I turn one wheel the other will for the most part not move (ocasionally move in the same direction for a limited time though). Is it likely that this is a worn out traction lock or is it because I have both wheels off the ground. Also, if it is worn out would I harm the rear end further by using it now without repairing. Thanks for the help as I to am a novice at this.
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 2074
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 11-30-2000 05:36 PM
Nash,Yours is a worn Trac Lock, and you won't damage it further by driving it. SteveW
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 14060
From: Saco, Maine MCA # 47773
Registered: May 99
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posted 11-30-2000 05:41 PM
You'll just polish up the steels and lap the ring and pinion a bit...  ------------------
SteveLaRiviere/Webmaster -- MCA # 47773
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 2074
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 11-30-2000 05:47 PM
SteveL,Only when he turns LOL SteveW p.s.
Steve L has a good point, the metal fragments (if it's that bad) in the oil wearing out the bearings and gears. You may want to change the gear oil and if you find metal, get it repaired to save the rest of the parts. [This message has been edited by steve'66 (edited 11-30-2000).]
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