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Dave_C
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posted 03-18-2004 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave_C   Click Here to Email Dave_C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pretty soon I will be in the market for ties for my 01 F350 diesel dually. 4X2. The General Grabber AW's on it from the factory suck.

What brands of truck tires have you guys had good luck with. Looking for something in the mid price range. I would like a set of Michelins, but buying 6 at their price is a little steep.

I need an E rated tire, size LT235/85-16

Thanks,
David Cole

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MLariviere
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posted 03-19-2004 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MLariviere   Click Here to Email MLariviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You may pay a little more for the Michelins,but you will have a longer lasting tire. We have a set on our Explorer with 40k on them,and they are at half wear.

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Dave_C
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posted 03-21-2004 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave_C   Click Here to Email Dave_C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, I'll consider them.

But, here are the reasons that I had looked at passing on them.

1. Intital cost

2. I don't drive the dually during the week. It's an 01 model that I've had for 2.5 yrs. Only 27K miles so far. Would the Michelins dry rot before I wear them out?

3. Rotation costs. To rotate the tires on a Ford dually they have to be dismounted and remounted on the proper wheel. Ford was too cheap to polish both sides of the front and rear aluminum wheels. So, the fronts and rears have to stay in place, other than a side to side roatation. The inner rears are steel. A racing buddy of mine owns the most popular tire store in town. He advised to put a little cheaper tire on it and not rotate. At $48 per rotate and balance (due to dismount) it's better in the long run to just let them wear out and then replace them. Take the money saved from not rotating and that's 1/3 to 1/2 the cost of a new set of the cheaper ones. He sells lot's of Michelins to truck guys, just not dually owners. He has a truck just like mine and even though he could sell the Michelins to himself at cost he didn't. He put Firestones on his. Not the blow out prone ones, a different model.

David Cole

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MLariviere
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posted 03-21-2004 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MLariviere   Click Here to Email MLariviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wouldn't even conside the Firestones,IMHO. Remember,you are in a medium{~7000#} truck with a loaded trailer going down a road at up to 70 mph. Do you really want to trust a tire with a known tread separation/sidewall failure history?

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kid vishus
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posted 03-21-2004 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MLariviere:
Remember,you are in a medium{~7000#} truck with a loaded trailer going down a road at up to 70 mph.

Or if your like my buddy in Iowa, it's more like 85 mph with a truck/trailer weight of 20k pounds.

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67stang
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posted 03-21-2004 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 67stang   Click Here to Email 67stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shall we post tire horror stories behind every brand known? I can tell you stories about Michelins, Firestone, Goodyear, Kuhmo, BFG, Uniroyal, Bridgestone, Cooper, Hoosier, Kelly, Summit, Yokohama, Perelli, Dunlap... the list goes on. The only thing these stories have in common is the tire failed.

Point is, all companies have problems. Even the company that produced the tires on your rig.

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MLariviere
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posted 03-24-2004 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MLariviere   Click Here to Email MLariviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure,there are blems here and there. But most of the other tire companies have their tires recalled in the mass millions like Firestone had. Ford did overreact,but they do have the interest of their own reputation,and the safety of their customers. You will have your favorites as I do mine. I just will put them on the maypops list. The last two sets I had were junk. They were right on par with the performance of the Generals. YMMV.

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67stang
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posted 03-25-2004 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 67stang   Click Here to Email 67stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have had the best luck with BFGoodrich, believe it or not...

And I will probably end up replacing what I have now (Firestone Wilderness AT III's) with another set of BFG's (BFG AT KO's) when the time comes.

Again personal preference.

But I will buy a Firestone before I buy another Goodyear or General

Personally in this situation I would go with the BFG Commercial TA for roughly $110 a tire (IIRC).

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MLariviere
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posted 03-26-2004 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MLariviere   Click Here to Email MLariviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those are good tires,Keith. I found that Goodyears grip well,but I can only get 10-12k from them. Generals just hold air. I did get a set of Pirelli Scorpions,and they are good tires! Right on par with Michelins,IMHO. I have 30k on them,and they are just past half wear. I had a set of Coopers too,and they only went 20k.

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67stang
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posted 03-26-2004 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 67stang   Click Here to Email 67stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think I have ever ran Goodyears more than 5000 miles before replacing them until my current jeep. And it's only because I can't afford new BFG's that I haven't replaced them yet. But for $183 a tire these Goodyears blow the big one!!

I sell Coopers at work. They sem to be all right tires for the daily grind but not if you are expecting anything more than "get me to the store and back" from them.

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Dave_C
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posted 03-26-2004 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave_C   Click Here to Email Dave_C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personally I think each tire brand has some good models and other models that are crap. Ex: some people hate Goodyear. But, the best wearing tires I ever had on a truck were the Wrangler AT's that I had on the F150 I owned before the dually.

That truck also had General's from the factory. Got 21K from them. Replaced with a set of Wrangler AT's even though it was a 4X2 truck and the AT is a pretty agressive tread. Got 50K out of them. Then put on a set of highway tread Wrangler HT's. They sucked. 38K on them. Went back to the AT and over 50K on the next set. It was on another set of AT's when I sold it at 210K to buy the F350.

Also, as I mentioned in my second post above, my buddy owns a tire store. He could have had his choice of any tire at cost. But, he chose Firestone for his F350 dually.

David Cole

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