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Topic: 94 ranger slave cylinder
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CHIPSBAD67
Gearhead Posts: 396
From: LOU,KY;USA
Registered: Sep 2003
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posted 01-29-2004 10:40 PM
   
just finished installing a new clutch/plate, master and slave cylinders in my brothers 94 ranger. its the funky deal where the hyd. slave is inside the bellhousing and its all one unit with the throwout bearing. we bled the thing for a good hour, both gravity bleeding and pumping the clutch pedal while opening and closing the beeder valve at the correct intervals. valve open, pedal down, then shut valve and release pedal...etc. we still have no clutch whatsoever. the thing isnt leaking and its been bled till no more air bubbles came out. whats the deal on this thing? anybody else have trouble with these? ------------------
306, 4speed, 4.11's....best 1/8 mile 7.58 at 92mph with 1.72 60ft. PUMP GAS/NO ADDERS/STREET TIRES
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67coupe
Gearhead Posts: 488
From: dallas NC usa
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 01-29-2004 11:17 PM
i had an 88 with the same stupid system and i had the same problem i just let it set and over night gravity bleed most of the bubbles to the top  good luck------------------
Josh
67 coupe with 351c (currently broke:( )
8.41 in the 1/8
1.90 60'
at 82.03 mph
94 Explorer
30 model A currently rustbucket
in process 67 convt with efi 5.0 and t5
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CHIPSBAD67
Gearhead Posts: 396
From: LOU,KY;USA
Registered: Sep 2003
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posted 01-29-2004 11:28 PM
the reservoir is tiny, how did you keep the bleeder valve open overnight?------------------
306, 4speed, 4.11's....best 1/8 mile 7.58 at 92mph with 1.72 60ft. PUMP GAS/NO ADDERS/STREET TIRES
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Buster
Gearhead Posts: 1437
From: Hurricane alley
Registered: May 2002
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posted 01-30-2004 09:52 AM
Pump it a bunch of times with the bleeder closed, then, remove the master cylinder cap and leave it alone for a while.... rinse and repeatI've also raised the front of the truck until I'm done. That's because the way the line is run. I've been down that road too many times.
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66-408-stang
Journeyman Posts: 56
From: lafayette, in usa
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 01-30-2004 07:41 PM
Buster hit it on the nail. Besides the usual pumping, gravity flow, and so on, raising the front of the truck - by atleast a foot - will help to rid the master of air. I have a (manual) 93 explorer that gives me fits whenever clutch work is done because of this.
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 8826
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-30-2004 10:35 PM
Chip,Did you get it yet? SteveW
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CHIPSBAD67
Gearhead Posts: 396
From: LOU,KY;USA
Registered: Sep 2003
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posted 01-30-2004 11:12 PM
steve, friend of mine who is a huge ford nut (owns a 67 'lane and a 68 fastback) is going with me tommorrow with the vaccuum pump and try all these tricks. i talked to a couple of garages today and a dealership...all said this particular setup is a pain to bleed the air out. this must be one of the worst designs ever. anyway, it will be three of us ford nuts working on it along with this advise i think somethings gotta give. let you know tom. night when i get home. ------------------
306, 4speed, 4.11's....best 1/8 mile 7.58 at 92mph with 1.72 60ft. PUMP GAS/NO ADDERS/STREET TIRES
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 8826
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-30-2004 11:14 PM
Can someone jack the car up in front overnight?SteveW
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TomP
Gearhead Posts: 5761
From: Delta BC Canada
Registered: Dec 99
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posted 01-30-2004 11:17 PM
My Ranger had a girlieman 2.0L 4 banger that i deep sixed and threw a 5.0L into... i couldn't keep the original clutch line intact and had to shorten it since it's hard plastic and doesn't bend easily.Big mistake, the thing simply refused to bleed no matter what. One dealer told me they sell a pre-bled system of master, slave and hose just because of that. I modified the whole damn truck to use a cable, works now! [This message has been edited by TomP (edited 01-30-2004).]
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Buster
Gearhead Posts: 1437
From: Hurricane alley
Registered: May 2002
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posted 01-30-2004 11:19 PM
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Originally posted by steve'66:
Can someone jack the car up in front overnight?SteveW
yeah, and leave the cap off the master cylinder.... *edit* believe it or not, if you leave the master cylinder cap off with the front end up in the air, to let gravity take effect, you will see the bubbles surfacing while it's just sitting there. I know it's really a pain in the butt to bleed that system, although, if you do this IT will work. The problem with that setup is it traps air in certain areas within the system, in the master cylinder, lines and therefore it doesn't bleed like a normal system should.
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CHIPSBAD67
Gearhead Posts: 396
From: LOU,KY;USA
Registered: Sep 2003
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posted 02-01-2004 08:36 PM
after about 4 hours today(this being the 3rd day)with several bleeding methods we finally have a clutch! the ford service manual calls for 4 different methods for this system alone and says it should take a total of 2.5 man hours. by the way, the hours are set up to charge for work under warrantee and are underestimated. the method that seemed to work best was putting a vaccum pump on the bleeder valve and pulling 25hg while rapidly pumping the clutch pedal at the same time. we could only do this for 3 second intervals because the vac. pump reservoir would fill up so quick. needless to say it took 3 people and my carhart will probably burn for days on an open fire. its the biggest piece of crap system ive ever seen. the engineers are certainly basking in the sun somewhere and nowhere near a pint of brake fluid. ------------------
306, 4speed, 4.11's....best 1/8 mile 7.58 at 92mph with 1.72 60ft. PUMP GAS/NO ADDERS/STREET TIRES
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