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BLstangin
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From: South Central MN
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posted 04-06-2003 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BLstangin   Click Here to Email BLstangin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello, my uncle has a 96 f-150 with 75,000 miles on it and it has the 5.8 engine. When you are driving just off idle in any gear is will surge and the tach will jump around a little bit, around 1,000-1,200 rpm is when it does it. If I put it in gear and hold the brakes on and wind the engine up to somewhere in that area it will start to jerk and the tach will move around. My question, ignition or fuel? He had it in the ford dealer and they are stumped. Do you suppose that it could be the fuel pressure regulator changing in that rpm range?

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1970 coupe restored with the help of my dad. 302 with 600 holley, aluminum intake, headers, pertonix ignitor 2 with matched coil, 4-speed toploader, and 2.79 open 8" rear. Soon to be 9" 3.25 trac-lok
1986 f-150, 5.0, factory towing package with original c-6 trans

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 04-07-2003 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No codes, I take it?

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BLstangin
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posted 04-07-2003 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BLstangin   Click Here to Email BLstangin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't gotten to run it at the scan tool in school, but the ford dealer said there was none.

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1970 coupe restored with the help of my dad. 302 with 600 holley, aluminum intake, headers, pertonix ignitor 2 with matched coil, 4-speed toploader, and 2.79 open 8" rear. Soon to be 9" 3.25 trac-lok
1986 f-150, 5.0, factory towing package with original c-6 trans

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MLariviere
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From: Biddeford,Me.USA
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posted 04-08-2003 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MLariviere   Click Here to Email MLariviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you sure it's not a flare-up on the 2-3 upshift? That or your torque convertor locking too early. Had some problems with those.

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BLstangin
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posted 04-09-2003 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BLstangin   Click Here to Email BLstangin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nope, not a flare up between shifts, if I hold the brakes so it can't move pull the shifter down to first and give it enough throttle to get the engine up to 1,100 rpm the engine will start to surge eratically in about a 200-300 rpm range. So I know it isn't the shift, and I think that rules out the torque converter. I am really stumped on this one, I should just put a fuel pressure gauge on it and check to see if the pressure changes in that rpm range, and then put a timing light on it and see if the timing is going goofy right there. Anywhere else in the rpm range it is just fine, cruising down the highway is steady as can be. If I pull it down to first and cruise downtown at around 1,500 rpm or higher it runs steady, that is why I suspect maybe the fuel pressure regulator surging the fuel pressure to the injectors right in that rpm range, because usually that is when the fuel pressure regulator changes it pressure for off idle driving.

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1970 coupe restored with the help of my dad. 302 with 600 holley, aluminum intake, headers, pertonix ignitor 2 with matched coil, lakewood bellhousing, 4-speed toploader, and 2.79 open 8" rear. Soon to be 9" 3.25 trac-lok
1986 f-150, 5.0, factory towing package with original c-6 trans

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BlueMule
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From: Kent Island, MD USA
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posted 04-09-2003 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueMule   Click Here to Email BlueMule     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Check for vacuum leaks?

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4Zsnow
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From: Western Washington, USA
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posted 05-04-2003 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 4Zsnow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TPS?

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mtucker
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From: Wichita, KS
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posted 05-05-2003 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mtucker   Click Here to Email mtucker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
EGR position sensor?

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KULTULZ
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From: Rockville, MD
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posted 05-06-2003 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KULTULZ   Click Here to Email KULTULZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Throttle valve and ISC motor service?

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KULTULZ
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posted 05-07-2003 05:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KULTULZ   Click Here to Email KULTULZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KULTULZ:


Throttle valve and ISC motor service?


ISC MOTOR?

How about an IAC (Idle Air Control) Motor.

I am losing it here the last few days.

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BLstangin
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posted 05-07-2003 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BLstangin   Click Here to Email BLstangin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All of those things check out good?

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1970 coupe restored with the help of my dad. 302 with 600 holley, aluminum intake, headers, pertonix ignitor 2 with matched coil, lakewood bellhousing, 4-speed toploader, and 2.79 open 8" rear. Soon to be 9" 3.25 trac-lok
1986 f-150, 5.0, factory towing package with original c-6 trans

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KULTULZ
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posted 05-07-2003 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KULTULZ   Click Here to Email KULTULZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You need to read TSB Bulletin No. 98-23-10

MAF Sensor Contamination

-Cleaning MAF Sensor Wires-

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