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Mooney
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posted 11-18-2004 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mooney   Click Here to Email Mooney     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know its not a Ford, but would like to know whether a price I've been quoted on a 6 passenger wagon is appropriate. If its not possible to ask about here; if anyone has the knowledge of these cars. Maybe we could discuss it outside the forum through e-mail. If its all right Steve if you don't mind let me know, if not thats cool.
Thanks,
Luke

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ctastang
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posted 11-18-2004 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ctastang   Click Here to Email ctastang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uhm, Luke, Edsel is a Ford both person and car.

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I65Stang
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posted 11-18-2004 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I65Stang   Click Here to Email I65Stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yup, Edsel's are Fords whether we want to admit it or not .

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Moneymaker
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posted 11-18-2004 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gary would probably be your best source of accurate information.


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adragon8u
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posted 11-18-2004 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for adragon8u   Click Here to Email adragon8u     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it's time the Edsel quit getting it's bad rep. It may have been a marketing disaster, but from what I've heard, they really weren't the bad car everyone makes them out to be. There have certainly been worse cars(even a Ford?) built then the Edsel.

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posted 11-18-2004 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I65Stang   Click Here to Email I65Stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dont tell anyone, but I actually like the styling of the Edsel. How many car guys cant see the front end and say "thats an edsel"?

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Mooney
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posted 11-18-2004 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mooney   Click Here to Email Mooney     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ctastang:
Uhm, Luke, Edsel is a Ford both person and car.

Carole


I understand that completely and totally. But I didn't believe it was a FOMOCO type vehicle.
But heres the link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6 216&item=4505154075&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
I e-mailed him and he said he'd consider selling it for 3500. And I thought if I went in w/ 3000 cash. Then I might have a go at it.
Would that be a reasonable offer? Or is the vehicle worth that? I really love the styling of Edsels honestly. I don't know much about their engines though. But I thought if the car didn't need much work. Then I could park the Stang and work on it. And have another car that still would be pretty cool to have and wouldn't lose value over the years.
Any information and help would greatly be appreciated.
Thanks,
Luke


Well darn, after checkin' out some Edsel.com looks like its a bit on the pricey side for what it is... Might have to let this one go...

[This message has been edited by Mooney (edited 11-18-2004).]

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capri man
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posted 11-18-2004 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capri man   Click Here to Email capri man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i think the edsels were just a few years ahead of thier time.

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Fastback68
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posted 11-18-2004 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68   Click Here to Email Fastback68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought Edsels had acquired the same collector status as DeLoreans - ahead of their time, marketing disasters, problematic. Whenever I see an Edsel (which isn't often!), it sure perks me up! Much more interesting than a Belair.

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Rory McNeil
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posted 11-18-2004 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rory McNeil   Click Here to Email Rory McNeil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mooney, I think that if you can get that car for $3000, or even $3500., thats seems like a pretty decent deal. I realize that many people don`t like SW`s that much, but I`m not one of them. That car looks pretty decent for that kind of money. However, since there is no "Buy it now" for his listing, who knows high high it will go. When I looked tonite, there were 18 bids, up to $2100. As for the Edsel engines, that wagon has a 332 FE, the same as my 59 Meteor, which is a well proven design, on which the 352, 390, & 428 are also based. I like it! You may want to ask about this on the "Old Fords" section of M&M. Let us know how you make out.

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mellowyellow
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posted 11-18-2004 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of the Edsel's probs was the pushbutton shifter in the center of column. Not pretty when it went bad.

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TomP
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posted 11-19-2004 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That looks like a great deal so far. With 18 bids i can't imagine the seller closing the auction. If he'd take $3500 i'd go for it and let him sort out the irate bidders.

Very clean car for that money, you should try a price guide that's been updated since 1977. If the guide doesn't think it's worth that perhaps they'll find you a better one? LOL

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Rory McNeil
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posted 11-19-2004 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rory McNeil   Click Here to Email Rory McNeil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Only the "top line" 58 Edsels had the pushbutton automatic shifter in the steering wheel. The "low line" 58 Edsels, & the 59 & 60`s had conventional column shifters. As a side note, in 58, there was an Edsel 2 dr. Station wagon model called the "Round Up". Wouldn`t one of those be cool!

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Mooney
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posted 11-19-2004 05:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mooney   Click Here to Email Mooney     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, didn't realize the pricing guide hadn't been updated since way back when. The guy I guess has changed his mind on selling it outside E-bay, which is probably a smooth move on his part, he's not responded to my e-mail etc. So I think hes going to sit back and roll with it. I'm going to watch it though, see what happens. Always have loved wagons. And that one, its different than any other one you'll see out there usually. But I think its going to go oughta my price range on the bidding scale.
Thanks for all the information guys!
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ccode67
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posted 11-19-2004 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ccode67   Click Here to Email ccode67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That looks like a dang nice wagon, I bet he gets close to 10K for it.

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indyphil
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posted 11-19-2004 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyphil   Click Here to Email indyphil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I heard that the reason it flopped was the name and the styling...
Some thought the grill reminded them of female anatomy! there was a guy with one in Lafayette in unrestored condition, they were pretty decent cars - I liked them and a good one for 3500 I think is a bargain. Automotive history whether you love it or loath it.

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F570rd
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posted 11-19-2004 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for F570rd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd love to pull into the track with my race car being drag with that!!!!!fn cool.

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adragon8u
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posted 11-19-2004 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for adragon8u   Click Here to Email adragon8u     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Phil: I don't know about looking like a female antomy(maybe I'm slow) But it did always remind me of an old horse plow harness.

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steve'66
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posted 11-19-2004 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's an interesting article about Edsel Ford....

http://www.edsel.com/pages/edslford.htm

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Mooney
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posted 11-19-2004 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mooney   Click Here to Email Mooney     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, he gave me his number through e-mail. So I'm going to give him a call in a bit and hopefully setup a time to look at it tomorrow during the daylight. Definately considering it. And while it would put me into a small amount of debt. My dads agreed to loan me the money which will save me on taking out a miniloan heh. I'm not sure whether his price has gone up or not though, I hope not! Not looking forward to parking Maggie though if I'm able to purchase it. But only time will tell!

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posted 11-19-2004 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chip67   Click Here to Email chip67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
id like one tubbed with a blown 460. id call it "steamroller" and write "feel lucky punk?" on the back.

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mustangs68
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posted 11-20-2004 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangs68   Click Here to Email mustangs68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neat Ford,,I have always liked them.Seen several around here for sale between $2500 and $4500.

Never been to look at one because it's like going to the SPCA..I will bring something home.

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There is a 58 around here with a 428cj in it.

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posted 11-24-2004 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mooney   Click Here to Email Mooney     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, never could get in contact with the seller! And didn't want to purchase without looking at it. But was having issues with parking the stang and only haulting its progress since the Edsel would of taken priority! So I'm more or less happy I didn't go for it. Darn these whims!

But I'm quite surprised at the price it went for. I would of expected a bit more!

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posted 11-26-2004 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An old Joke in the Edsel demise, Kennedy era. A pregnant prostitue, driving an Edsel, with a Nixon sticker on the bumper-aka A Three Time Loser!

The girl who put headlites on her knees and went to a costume party as an Edsel.

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