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itlbrnmoff
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posted 02-15-2004 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for itlbrnmoff   Click Here to Email itlbrnmoff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I took the Lincoln out for a drive tonight and noticed an annoying squeaking that sounds like a box full of mice.
It sounds like it's right at the rear of the doors on both sides.
Could this be the upper or lower control arms?
Air suspension mounts, shocks?

I also noticed I have a pretty good oil leak while the engine runs, but I pretty much know what I'm in for on that one.

Thanks in advance.

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'83 Mustang GT T/tops 306, 5-speed, 3.45 trac-loc, 650 dbl. pmpr. RPM intake, headers, 2 1/2" exhaust, 2 chamber Flowmasters = LOUD....
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KULTULZ
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posted 02-16-2004 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KULTULZ   Click Here to Email KULTULZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would venture to say control arm bushings. You should be able to push the car up and down by the decklid to recreate the noise.

Is the air-ride OK? Does the rear squat overnight?

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 02-16-2004 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It could also quiet down with a little use. Often cars get creaky when they sit.

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itlbrnmoff
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posted 02-16-2004 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for itlbrnmoff   Click Here to Email itlbrnmoff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, the rear squats after about 3 days...it's an '88, the lifespan on those bags are at maturity. It raises up and stays up while driving though.
I already replaced 1 front bag from the junkyard, but that's crazy, it was off of a 16 year old car also.
I know a place on the internet to buy 4 new bags and a receiver/dryer for the compressor for under $500.00, but right now I just don't drive it much at all.
I want to pull the engine to fix any and all oil leakage, but I'm afraid I'll want to rebuild the engine if I pull it...more $$$$.
I noticed the oil leak after I took the car for about a 50 mile round trip to my workplace last night, when pulling away from work, I noticed spotting on the ground and got out to check...it was oil.

The reason I noticed the squeaking was, I don't have a working stereo in the car right now. If I would've, I'd probably never notice it.

But thanks for the replies, I'll check more when it gets warmer out.

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'83 Mustang GT T/tops 306, 5-speed, 3.45 trac-loc, 650 dbl. pmpr. RPM intake, headers, 2 1/2" exhaust, 2 chamber Flowmasters = LOUD....
'88 Lincoln Mark VII LSC 5.0 HO, AOD, leather, A/C, 3.27 trac-loc...

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KULTULZ
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posted 02-16-2004 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KULTULZ   Click Here to Email KULTULZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There you go...if she squats it puts a lot of stress on the bushings. I would replace the bushings along with the bags. Don't forget, LSC bags are different than regular MARK.

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itlbrnmoff
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posted 02-16-2004 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for itlbrnmoff   Click Here to Email itlbrnmoff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks KULTULZ. I think the Strutmasters are cheaper than Arnott Industries bags.

Yes, I was aware that the bags are different, but I wonder just how much? LSC bags are suppose to be stiffer riding for a more performance oriented ride, but I bet I couldn't tell the difference between the two.

Now that the subject was brought up, what are your opinions on coil spring conversion?

My initial response was, no way, if I only have to replace bags for $400.00 every 10 years or so, keep the air ride.
But springs are a more permanent solution, but won't hold any value to the originality of the car.

What would you think?

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'83 Mustang GT T/tops 306, 5-speed, 3.45 trac-loc, 650 dbl. pmpr. RPM intake, headers, 2 1/2" exhaust, 2 chamber Flowmasters = LOUD....
'88 Lincoln Mark VII LSC 5.0 HO, AOD, leather, A/C, 3.27 trac-loc...

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KULTULZ
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posted 02-16-2004 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KULTULZ   Click Here to Email KULTULZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's one of the reasons for owning a MARK...The air-ride...

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Bluegras
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posted 03-19-2004 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluegras   Click Here to Email Bluegras     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This post is getting a little old now but the rear bushing are no longer available except the upper rear axle ones.
None of the Mustang bushings will be the same.
The upper front bolts get worn and allow the arms to contact the chassis mounts and wear in the inside of the bushing and bolts.
Mustang upper arms can be used if they are lengthened one inch.
Alway change the air springs in pairs. The life of new Firestone bags should be eight or more years far longer than you may own the car.
The difference between the LSC and BB bags is the shape of the lower part of the bag mount. The LSC bags are shaped straight sided with the softer (acting) bags concave in that area otherwise are interchangeable.

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