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Bluegras
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posted 11-11-2003 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluegras   Click Here to Email Bluegras     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any Mark VII owners on the board?
Were havin fun out here with them. There are a few running in the 11s now with blowers.
I run a 1500 at nearly 7 lbs boost and makes the car feel like a big block on the street.
Take a look at Jan issue of MM-FF when it come on the stand.

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Moneymaker
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posted 11-12-2003 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They are all saving up for new air bags and ride height sensors.

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ccode67
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posted 11-12-2003 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ccode67   Click Here to Email ccode67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Moneymaker:
They are all saving up for new air bags and ride height sensors.

Ouch...been there and done that......never again, give me conventional suspension anyday. They do look cool when all four bags are deflated, car dang near scrapes the ground.

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Bluegras
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posted 11-12-2003 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluegras   Click Here to Email Bluegras     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moneymaker and team congrats on you title win.
Ya, the old girls tend to have problems with a lot of their features. Much of the time the bigger of the two problems is not knowing how the systems work so it can be serviced by the owner. Often the dealers are not any better as well as charging a lot for service.
I am a moderator on a Lincoln board and see this over and over. Unless the owner has the ability to handle the repairs both finacially and in fact, I always reccomend they don't own these cars. That dosn't set well in some instances but they learn over time.
Many do the coil spring conversion to get out of repairing the air spring suspension.
The ABS brakes are another sore point but the same applies.
I have been very suscessful with my 90 LSC and have a nice reliable car after taking a car of basic problems brought on by 13 years of life.
I wonder what will begin to happen in the future with all the automatic systems being engineered into the new cars and trucks? I would think the vehicles would be a burden to own and service long before actually wore out, with owners much less able to handle any repairs. Can you say continious payments for life!
Anyways we do our thing those of us that can.
How about that Mark VII that ran 11.3 ets with 1.66 60' time down at the Rockingham civil wars. Weighed 3880 lbs.

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John Holloway
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posted 11-19-2003 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for John Holloway   Click Here to Email John Holloway     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you tell me how to make the coil spring conversion...I found a mark7 and was thinking it would make a cheap bracket car to buy.

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Bluegras
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posted 11-22-2003 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluegras   Click Here to Email Bluegras     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are a number of conversion kit on the market.
Why not consider piping each air spring seperate and have control over wheel loading and tranfer height?
The air suspension has no disadvantages for performance and should be a little lighter.
A Mark VII is nice base to have fun with.
There are some low 11 sec Marks around.
The bigest setup problem is to get them into low 60' times.
Depends on how far you want to go with performance using a 3900 lb car. The early models around 86 are a couple hundrd pounds lighter.
My 90 weighs in at 3985 with half tank gas.

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Moneymaker
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posted 11-25-2003 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, 99% of the ABS issues were gone after the short 87 model run.(87 was the the fewest Marks produced)
FoMoCo switched from the ATE system to Bosch and and the failure rate dropped dramaticly.
I think that Fox outfit which I can never remember the name of sells the spring conversion kits John.

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