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Moneymaker
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posted 02-27-2003 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By far one of the ugliest has to be the 69-70 Merc Maurader.
Also, any big Ford built from 73-78. Some of the Merc Marquis 2 drs were OK, but those LTD's were U G L Y!

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posted 02-27-2003 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JCQuinn@work   Click Here to Email JCQuinn@work     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The ugly big car that most sticks in my mind is the 57 Mercury. The 56 Merc and 56 Ford were a very nice design and the 57 Ford was one of my favorite all time big Fords. But the 57 Merc looked like a practical joke.

I have always wondered why it seems that all brands and each of the product lines within brands will build good looking cars for several years and then suddenly produce some of the worst monstrosities for an equal number of years. Maybe they shoot their stylists every five years or so.

John

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posted 02-27-2003 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fordfan   Click Here to Email fordfan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
those late '60s t-birds (the ones with suicide doors...

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posted 02-27-2003 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those early sixties Mercs were pretty gnarly...

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posted 02-27-2003 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like the 63.5 and 64 Marauder fast backs.

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posted 02-27-2003 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rory McNeil   Click Here to Email Rory McNeil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Steve meant the 60-62 Mercs, Alex. They hade "Interesting" (to say the least :rolleyes styling. I can`t imagine ANYONE not liking the 63&64 Maurader fastbacks, they are just too cool! I`m off on holidays this week, trying to get the Mustang ready for the strip, but I went back to that "Oldies" wrecking yard in Washington State again today, & after looking at the 59 Lincoln Continental in the yard, I figure that has to be near the peak of the "ugly Ford list" Of course, with so many 50`s & early 60`s MoPars & Buicks in the yard, the Lincoln is far from an overall frontrunner!!

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posted 02-27-2003 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah Rory, I think you are right. The 61-62 Mercs had the sex appeal of a Rambler.

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KULTULZ
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posted 02-28-2003 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KULTULZ   Click Here to Email KULTULZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 1960 EDSEL had to be one of the ugliest things Henry ever strung a wiring harness through. That car had ugly that it hasn't even used yet. I had sex with a girl in the backseat of one once and she had to dream she was in another car...

...hey...wait a minute...

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posted 02-28-2003 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Squarebirds are pretty hideous...

P.S. Don't blame Henry for the Edsel, he died in 1947. Henry II was the culprit there. {Did you know Edsel's widow begged them not to use his name for the car?}

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posted 02-28-2003 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JCQuinn@work   Click Here to Email JCQuinn@work     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Boy Steve, your stomping all over my toes. Not only have I always liked the square T-Birds, the 60 Starliner is my favorite Galaxy.

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posted 02-28-2003 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry about that...

You know they're having a two for one sale at LensCrafters right now...

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posted 02-28-2003 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JCQuinn@work   Click Here to Email JCQuinn@work     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's OK Steve, I prefer being partially blind. It makes the old women I date much prettier.

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posted 02-28-2003 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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MLariviere
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posted 03-01-2003 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MLariviere   Click Here to Email MLariviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I vote the late 50's Lincolns,the 74-75 Tbirds and Merc Marquis,and the early 80's Crown Vics. In the small car,a 61-62 Falcon,but the one I hate the most,is a 65 Fairlane. Who came up with that?

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I HAD A 59 THUNDERBIRD WITH THE 430 LINCOLN ENGINE AND THE STICK SHIFT NASCAR PACKAGE. IT WAS VERY FAST. IT COULD PASS ANYTHING BUT A GAS STATION. HA HA

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posted 03-02-2003 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KULTULZ   Click Here to Email KULTULZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CAPTAIN CLAMHEAD:


I HAD A 59 THUNDERBIRD WITH THE 430 LINCOLN ENGINE AND THE STICK SHIFT NASCAR PACKAGE.


Can you tell me what trans was used on this application? Was it factory assembly? Were the rocker covers stamped FORD or were they plain?

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I am not a fan of the 'square-birds', but they don't look all THAT bad. (to me, anyway). I have a 79 MK-V that I think looks great. It's been painted in the Bill Blass scheme. Dark metallic blue, chamois-colored half-vinyl roof and chamois-colored trunk padding on the 'Continental kit.' The vinyl moldings match the roof and trunk-lid padding.
I bought this car about 16 years ago with only 55,000 miles on it. It was originally a 'Cartier' edition. All cream-colored paint and vinyl. OK looking, but not real 'classy' looking. The new color scheme looks much, much better.
When I was younger, I always thought these cars were about the butt-ugliest cars ever made. One sunny day many years later I saw a Bill Blass rolling down the road, and it just struck me as a great looking car!
I kept my eye out for a MK-V, and when a good opportunity came up few years later, I jumped on it!
I got the car for $1,000. It sat in the owners garage for many yeras because he thought the 'hydro-boost' system on the brakes was bad and that it would cost over $3,000 to fix!( His son told him that!).
I took a chance and bought the car, and it turned out that it was just the master cylinder that needed replacing. $18.00! Ten minutes to install! That car is now approaching 300,000 miles and has never let me down. It is by far the best riding, most comfortable car I have ever ridden in. My company car is a new Grand Marquis, but I like the ride of the Mk better.
It's gonna need another paint job soon, as this one is about 10 years old and has over 150,000 miles on it. It has almost zero resale value, so there is no reason for me to get rid of it.
I figure in another 5-10 years, it may start to get a little collectibility and noteriety going for it. Who knows? I'll keep driving it and see!

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posted 03-02-2003 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fordfan   Click Here to Email fordfan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MLariviere:
and the early 80's Crown Vics. In the small car,a 61-62 Falcon,but the one I hate the most,is a 65 Fairlane. Who came up with that?

By early 80's do you mean the Fox chassis LTDs and Grand Marquis? (I like those.).

'62 Falcon is almost Identical to the '63 (the '60 and '61s are ugly.)..... I have a '62 2dr Wagon...

The '65 Fairlane is MUCH better looking than the '63 ever was.

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posted 03-02-2003 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fordfan   Click Here to Email fordfan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The '60 Starliner UGLY?!. What kind of crack are you smoking, and where can I get some

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KULTULZ
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posted 03-03-2003 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KULTULZ   Click Here to Email KULTULZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Beauty Is In The Eyes Of The Beholder

My first car was a 1960 SUNLINER. Wish I still had it...

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posted 03-03-2003 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't mean to offend anybody. I guess if you post any car you think is homely, you are bound to offend somebody.

I can say the Starliner isn't terrible, but the squarebird looks like it was designed by a committee.

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posted 03-03-2003 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fordfan   Click Here to Email fordfan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm just funin with ya . It takes alot to make me angry :P

Everyone is intitled to their own opinion.

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posted 03-03-2003 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like both the 60 and 61 Starliners.

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posted 03-04-2003 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JCQuinn@work   Click Here to Email JCQuinn@work     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, Captain Clamhead posted something reasonable. I never owned one of the 430 SquareBirds but I knew a guy who bought one of the 58's (new) with the 430 and a stick shift. He claimed it was very fast but I never got to see him race anybody.

John

Steve, what happened to the pictures?

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Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
Sorry about that...

You know they're having a two for one sale at LensCrafters right now...


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posted 03-06-2003 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for itlbrnmoff   Click Here to Email itlbrnmoff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CAPTAIN CLAMHEAD:
I HAD A 59 THUNDERBIRD WITH THE 430 LINCOLN ENGINE AND THE STICK SHIFT NASCAR PACKAGE. IT WAS VERY FAST. IT COULD PASS ANYTHING BUT A GAS STATION. HA HA


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posted 03-06-2003 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Steve, what happened to the pictures?

They weren't mine, I was just borrowing them. {plus I found the squarebird tough to look at... }

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WHOA! You are just wrong, damn it! Look closer. You may object to one model of the 57 Merc, of which there were many. OK, I might be prejudiced -- it was my first car, a 4-dr Monterey. But what the hell is wrong?

OK the bumper pods may have looked a little dumb. Other than that, what's wrong? It was classic 57 styling. WTF?

I agree about the 56s.

Check out the Monterey -- I think you are thinking about the Turnpike Cruiser, which I believe had the undershot roll-down back window. I never liked that.

But...? I would love to find an old Monterey.

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The ugly big car that most sticks in my mind is the 57 Mercury. The 56 Merc and 56 Ford were a very nice design and the 57 Ford was one of my favorite all time big Fords. But the 57 Merc looked like a practical joke.

I have always wondered why it seems that all brands and each of the product lines within brands will build good looking cars for several years and then suddenly produce some of the worst monstrosities for an equal number of years. Maybe they shoot their stylists every five years or so.

John

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Originally posted by KULTULZ:
[b]Beauty Is In The Eyes Of The Beholder

My first car was a 1960 SUNLINER. Wish I still had it...

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Had a 61 Sunliner -- 390 engine, auto. I feel your pain.
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quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:

Squarebirds are pretty hideous...

Kidding, right?

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If any one of them can be called ugly, I agree, its the square bird. BUT I would own that before most production cars today, they certianly have charactor. Im badly missing my 60 monteray and 71 429PI LTD 4speed 4door. oooooohhhhhhhh the things I should have never sold!!!!

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I find it interesting that I miss several of my old cars, but I don't miss any of my old girlfriends/wives.

I even miss a couple of cars I almost bought.
Missed former cars:
54 Merc, 57 Ford, 60 Starliner, 65 Mustang coupe, 66 Mustang coupe, 67 Mustang K code Fastback

Missed opportunities (and still kicking myself):
New 66 Cobra, $6k+, used 66 GT350H $2500.

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quote:
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Kidding, right?

I just saw some more square birds at a car show, and I think hideous is too kind a word. What was Ford thinking?

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quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
I just saw some more square birds at a car show, and I think hideous is too kind a word. What was Ford thinking?


It took me a lot longer to like the bullet birds than it did the square birds, but I'm fine with both of them now. I'm still more partial to the square than the bullet, but not overwhelmingly so.

OTOH, the 4 door suckermouth, now, unless someone GIVES me one -- I doubt I'll ever be able to wrap my mind around that monstrosity.
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thats okay fords ugliest is still better that chebbie best.Bruce

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Hows this for ugly?
A friend of mine has a 59 Mark IV and he wants to get a squarebird nose molded for it. kinda like a really big squarebird with a roll-down back window.Gah.

well at least it'll look better then it does now.

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