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RickBook
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posted 05-23-2002 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RickBook   Click Here to Email RickBook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have (at my disposal) Dad's old 1965 Mercury Monterey (parked 300 miles from me now). The engine runs but overheats (at least the last time it was run - about 10 years ago).

Actually, the car can be a fixer-upper as the body is in pretty good shape.

But what I'm interested in is the engine - 390 c.i.d. 4bbl.

I've searched the web and have found varying numbers for h.p. rating.

I figured someone on this board could tell me the specifics (h.p. and torque)?

Also, I assume this is an "FE" engine (what does "FE" stand for anyway?). Is this a narrower engine than the 427's and 460's?

The reason I am asking is I may want to put the engine in my 1970 Maverick Grabber one day and was wondering if the block would be a good choice to start with (ie., will it fit in the engine bay with 'normal' shock tower mods made for a 351? Is it worth the effort? Is there a stroker kit available?)

Any other information or links would be appreciated.

Thanks for your help.

Rick

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Moneymaker
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posted 05-23-2002 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
390 is a very tough fit into a Maverick. Not a good swap choice. The 65 4v engine, if it is really a 390 and not a 410 would is rated at 300 HP. That figure is a bit optomistic at best.

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RickBook
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posted 05-23-2002 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RickBook   Click Here to Email RickBook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alex,

The breather has the 390 emblem on it. I'm assuming Ford didn't actually put a 410 in it and not change the emblem (??).

Anyway, I think you answered my question regarding 'fit' and horsepower/wt ratio of the engine. I've seen what it takes to put a big block in a Maverick - too much for me to want to take on. I'll stay with the 347 (for now).

Thanks,

Rick

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 05-23-2002 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RickBook:

Also, I assume this is an "FE" engine (what does "FE" stand for anyway?). Is this a narrower engine than the 427's and 460's?



It actually stands for Ford Edsel, the first car the engine family {352/360/390/406/410/427/428} was designed for.

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RickBook
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posted 05-24-2002 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RickBook   Click Here to Email RickBook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Steve.

I always 'thought' I knew what it meant - 'certainly never knew the origin.

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Moneymaker
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posted 05-24-2002 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Steve, you actually forgot the very first FE introduced in 1958. The 332 cube.

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posted 05-24-2002 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Steve, you actually forgot the very first FE introduced in 1958. The 332 cube.


I'm not as old as you, partner!

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posted 05-25-2002 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nor obviously as knowledgable either partner. heh heh heh

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 05-25-2002 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Touche'

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dark7068
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posted 06-01-2002 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dark7068   Click Here to Email dark7068     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All the books Ive read says FE just stands stands for Ford Engine. Ill do more reasearch and post the books I found them in.

Rick

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Moneymaker
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posted 06-04-2002 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's Ford-Edsel.

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