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fordfan
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posted 01-26-2002 04:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fordfan   Click Here to Email fordfan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any info on these engines?, looking at a '62-'64 era Lincoln Cont. If the engine is the problem is it worth fixing, or would I be better off with a different engine.?

I'm aware of the weird Piston/Head/deck setup on these engines. Also that the '59 430s made decent power and torque. The '62-'64 made 300hp (2v) and 325 (4v).

The '62-4 continental is one of my favorite F-L-M Cars.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 01-27-2002 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unless it was a concours restoration, I think you'd be much happier with a 460 just for the ease of finding parts alone.

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posted 01-29-2002 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There were several very hot Merc verions of those engines for limited street and mostly Nascar use. 3x2 and 2x4.

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TomP
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posted 02-14-2002 03:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Steve

swapping to a generic newfangled 460 is blasphemy!!

Nothing wrong with a 430-462. Very well built and tough engines, capable of handling LOTS more power than stock. Sure there is diddly for speed parts and even stock rebuild parts aren't common... but it only needs to be built once.

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Daniel Jones
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posted 02-14-2002 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daniel Jones   Click Here to Email Daniel Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also the crank journals are large so it's easy to offset grind to a larger stroke. Back in the day, there were 500+ cube stroker kits for the 462.

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posted 02-14-2002 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TomP:
swapping to a generic newfangled 460 is blasphemy!!


Why do I get a feeling you still use oil bath air cleaners?

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fordfan
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posted 02-16-2002 02:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fordfan   Click Here to Email fordfan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, a 500 caddy would be a better choice............. (Runs away screaming like a girl.....)

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posted 02-19-2002 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks to Tomp for the link. Check it out gang http://www.lovefords.org/pages/HalvarssonOla/HalvarssonOla_58_Mercury.htm

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posted 02-23-2002 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What? No comments? I guess everyone has seen one of these before?

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posted 03-06-2002 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Travis Perrenot from Texas ran a 430 Lincoln in a blown gas dragster (back during NHRA's Nitro ban in 1959) he told me that the stock block and crank took 8000 RPM no problem and they eventually bored to block to 4.6" and offset ground the the crank to stroke the thing to 560" ....in 1960!

Even back then there were no speed parts and things had to be custom made.

Still applies, cams can be ground by any older machine shop that is properly equipped or send it to Crane. Rebuild parts like bearings are available, custom oversized pistons can be made (as they do for 409's) and for intakes, unless you like 6 Strombergs something is going to have to be made or adapted.

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