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HHStang
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posted 02-04-2005 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HHStang   Click Here to Email HHStang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone know if the 72 Mustang steering box can be used on the 70-71 Torino. We measured and the Torino is 1" wider. Anyone tried this?

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-05-2005 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They will interchange.

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HHStang
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posted 02-05-2005 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HHStang   Click Here to Email HHStang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks! My Torino friend hates the steering feel on his car and had hoped this would swap.

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-06-2005 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let me know if you run accross another one please.

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Alex Denysenko
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Hemikiller
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posted 02-16-2005 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemikiller   Click Here to Email Hemikiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alex, the 71-up Mustang steering box will not interchange onto a 70-1 Torino. The Mustang uses the Saginaw integral power steering box (or a 65-68 Galaxie manual box). The Torino uses the crappy Ford "power assist" ram-and-control valve mess. The bolt patterns are totally different.

BTW, if you need a 71-3 Mustang box, let me know.....


The dilly-o is that you "could" get them to swap, as the 71-3 Mustang and the 70-1 Torino share the same spacing on the rails and in fact have the same exact radiator support. You would have to graft the box mounting section of a Mustang frame rail into the Torino and use the Mustang center link and idler. I have not investigated the column angles, but some serious research into this is forthcoming when I get the Torino indoors again.

That steering system is the pits....

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 02-16-2005 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hemikiller:
The dilly-o is that you "could" get them to swap, as the 71-3 Mustang and the 70-1 Torino share the same spacing on the rails and in fact have the same exact radiator support. You would have to graft the box mounting section of a Mustang frame rail into the Torino and use the Mustang center link and idler. I have not investigated the column angles, but some serious research into this is forthcoming when I get the Torino indoors again.

The big problem is the space. If it's the same as the Mustang, that space is incredibly tight. As you know, the early box is much smaller than the '71-'73 box, and that barely fits in there.

I'd love to put the Saginaw system in my '70.

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posted 02-16-2005 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I should lok at those years closer sometimes before typing a response.
I thought they were both 72 up cars.

I stand corrected.
71 was the last year for the control valve on a mid size.
Last time I needed a manual box I got one from a 72 Galaxie taxi cab. It worked just fine. Cost me $40 + shipping.
Yes, I can use another manual box.

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Alex Denysenko
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Steve S
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posted 02-17-2005 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve S   Click Here to Email Steve S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wanted an integral power steering box for my 64 so I "built" one. You guys have probably seen the saginaw 605 box that the 55-57 chevy guys have been modifying for years. Well I did the same thing using my original sector shaft with an extended housing. Bolted right in, just had to have a shortened column. I put in a collaspible from a 68 mustang that I shortend.I also put in a chevy power steering pump which puts out more pressure.

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