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HHStang Gearhead Posts: 538 From: Coastal SC, USA Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 02-04-2005 08:53 PM
Anyone know if the 72 Mustang steering box can be used on the 70-71 Torino. We measured and the Torino is 1" wider. Anyone tried this?------------------ ------------------------ 1967 472 Prost D1X FBstang 1972 429 Convertible 1997 Cobra vert S Trim 2004 F150 4x4 Crew FX4 www.mikemustangs.net
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Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 26813 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99
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posted 02-05-2005 12:07 PM
They will interchange.------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,'04 &'05 First SS/MA in the TENS! IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked." Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!" Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!" www.moneymakerracing.com
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HHStang Gearhead Posts: 538 From: Coastal SC, USA Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 02-05-2005 07:02 PM
Thanks! My Torino friend hates the steering feel on his car and had hoped this would swap.
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Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 26813 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99
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posted 02-06-2005 03:37 PM
Let me know if you run accross another one please.------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,'04 &'05 First SS/MA in the TENS! IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked." Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!" Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!" www.moneymakerracing.com
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Hemikiller Gearhead Posts: 661 From: Killingworth, CT Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 02-16-2005 09:52 AM
Alex, the 71-up Mustang steering box will not interchange onto a 70-1 Torino. The Mustang uses the Saginaw integral power steering box (or a 65-68 Galaxie manual box). The Torino uses the crappy Ford "power assist" ram-and-control valve mess. The bolt patterns are totally different.BTW, if you need a 71-3 Mustang box, let me know..... The dilly-o is that you "could" get them to swap, as the 71-3 Mustang and the 70-1 Torino share the same spacing on the rails and in fact have the same exact radiator support. You would have to graft the box mounting section of a Mustang frame rail into the Torino and use the Mustang center link and idler. I have not investigated the column angles, but some serious research into this is forthcoming when I get the Torino indoors again.
That steering system is the pits.... [This message has been edited by Hemikiller (edited 02-16-2005).]
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 44935 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99
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posted 02-16-2005 10:38 AM
quote: Originally posted by Hemikiller: The dilly-o is that you "could" get them to swap, as the 71-3 Mustang and the 70-1 Torino share the same spacing on the rails and in fact have the same exact radiator support. You would have to graft the box mounting section of a Mustang frame rail into the Torino and use the Mustang center link and idler. I have not investigated the column angles, but some serious research into this is forthcoming when I get the Torino indoors again.
The big problem is the space. If it's the same as the Mustang, that space is incredibly tight. As you know, the early box is much smaller than the '71-'73 box, and that barely fits in there. I'd love to put the Saginaw system in my '70. ------------------ '70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open '70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open '72 Mustang Sprint Hardtop 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc '94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip [This message has been edited by SteveLaRiviere (edited 02-16-2005).]
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Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 26813 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99
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posted 02-16-2005 10:51 AM
I should lok at those years closer sometimes before typing a response. I thought they were both 72 up cars. I stand corrected. 71 was the last year for the control valve on a mid size. Last time I needed a manual box I got one from a 72 Galaxie taxi cab. It worked just fine. Cost me $40 + shipping. Yes, I can use another manual box.------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,'04 &'05 First SS/MA in the TENS! IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked." Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!" Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!" www.moneymakerracing.com [This message has been edited by Moneymaker (edited 02-16-2005).]
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Steve S Journeyman Posts: 41 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 02-17-2005 06:55 PM
I wanted an integral power steering box for my 64 so I "built" one. You guys have probably seen the saginaw 605 box that the 55-57 chevy guys have been modifying for years. Well I did the same thing using my original sector shaft with an extended housing. Bolted right in, just had to have a shortened column. I put in a collaspible from a 68 mustang that I shortend.I also put in a chevy power steering pump which puts out more pressure.------------------ Steve S 64 Fairlane S/C Big brakes, 8.8 rear
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