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Author Topic:   HELP - Headers won't fit 289 in a 64
ekbeanctr
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posted 09-14-2003 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ekbeanctr   Click Here to Email ekbeanctr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, A good friend of mine got the shorty Hedman Headers from Summit Racing for his 64 Fairlane: Part Number HED-88400
" Vendor: Hedman Hedders
Product Line: Hedman Street Hedders
Material: Steel
Finish: Black
One of the best buys in bolt-on performance.
Ford: 260-302 1962-70 Falcon, 1964-73 Mustang, 1963-73 Fairlane, shorty-style, 1 1/2 in. primary tubes, 2 1/2 in. collectors, headers

THEY AREN'T EVEN CLOSE TO FITTING!!! It's a 64 Fairlane 289 steel stock heads. The headers would have to be beat 1/2 shut on both sides to even come close to fitting. Anybody got any advice on what to do now??

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 09-14-2003 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Call Summit. Maybe you got the wrong headers?

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MLariviere
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posted 09-14-2003 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MLariviere   Click Here to Email MLariviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are you into,the shock tower? I'd call them too. If it's listed,they should fit.

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Kyle
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posted 09-15-2003 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kyle   Click Here to Email Kyle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You could either:

1. Return those headers and spring for a set of Hooker Super Comps. They are indeed expensive, but are great headers and fit perfectly. (It's what I have on my '63)

2. You could order a shock tower clearance kit from http://www.critesrestoration.com/litening.htm for $100. You cut into the shock towers and weld plates in place, giving more clearance to the exhaust system.

Judging by the way the Super Comps are bent all around to be able to fit, you would have to have either a really small tube diameter or a whole lotta bends for a shorty to fit well. But I would vote the Hookers.

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63 Fairlane: 302, Victor Jr. heads and intake, Comp 31-639-5 solid cam, Super Comp headers, MSD 6AL, locked Duraspark Distributor, 650 Holley DP carb, C4, 3000 stall converter, manual valve body, 8" rear, Strange axles, 4.11 gears

66 Mustang coupe: 289, Offy intake, Crane Blazer hyd. camshaft, Autolite 4100 carb, Headman long tube headers, 3spd tranny, 8" rear, 3.80 gears

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Fastymz
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posted 09-15-2003 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Summit racing gave me the wrong hedmen hedders the first time.So I'd do like Steve said make sure you have the right model hedder.

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smblk t-bolt
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posted 09-16-2003 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for smblk t-bolt   Click Here to Email smblk t-bolt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got heddmen headers for my fairlane a few years ago.. said they'd fit my 64(and early mustangs) and i still had to beat the shocktower and headers a bit to get them to fit.

now i'm puttin in a 351w... sigh i guess I'll be cuttin' the shock towers..
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roger
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posted 09-17-2003 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roger   Click Here to Email roger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The hooker full length super comps fit perfectly.
i;ve heard the Hedmans are a real hit & miss, luckly i had access to a set of hedmans before i bought the Hookers, the Hedmans didn't even look close to fitting
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ekbeanctr
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posted 09-18-2003 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ekbeanctr   Click Here to Email ekbeanctr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unbelievable. He called Hedman and they said they should fit, but if not call Summit, where you bought them!!!

So he calls Summit and explains the deal, They sell him the hookers at a $70 discounted price and tell him to send back the shorties (Which he had powder coated) and they would give him a full refund. I think all his parts in the future will be through Summit

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roger
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posted 09-19-2003 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roger   Click Here to Email roger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ekbeanctr:
[B]Unbelievable. He called Hedman and they said they should fit, but if not call Summit, where you bought them!!!

So he calls Summit and explains the deal, They sell him the hookers at a $70 discounted price and tell him to send back the shorties (Which he had powder coated) and they would give him a full refund. I think all his parts in the future will be through Summit

[Wow, good for Summit, i love happy endings & usually in these situation the ending gets ugly, great promo for Summit, i hope he sends them a nice thanks letter
RP]

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 09-19-2003 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Summit is a great company to deal with. They stand behind their stuff, no questions asked. They've done similar things for me, too.

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ekbeanctr
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posted 09-23-2003 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ekbeanctr   Click Here to Email ekbeanctr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GOT THE HOOKER HEADERS

They fit like a dream and are incredible to look at, talk about some awesome bends. THEY ARE SO COOL.

We won't ever buy another set of Hedman Headers - Hookers Rule.

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smblk t-bolt
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posted 10-20-2003 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for smblk t-bolt   Click Here to Email smblk t-bolt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
anyone got a part number for those super comps?
and does anyone know if they would fit a 64 fairlane with a 351w?
ron

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TomP
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posted 11-09-2003 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hedman has the wackiest listings of anybody. "63-73 Fairlane"??? Thats 4 completely different engine bays, chances are they won't more than one style (i'll guess the 70-71's)
The 351W into 64 is very tight, fits without cutting but the headers have to be specifically for a 62-65 Fairlane with 351W, 302 headers won't fit.

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TomP
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posted 11-09-2003 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ron, Wayne Friesen in Abbotsford has a 351W in his 64 with headers, i can get his e-mail for you.

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smblk t-bolt
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posted 01-12-2004 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for smblk t-bolt   Click Here to Email smblk t-bolt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OOPs... sorry Tom. Havent checked the forums in a while! I got my friend who owns a muffler shop to alter my old headers to fit... wow he did a fabulous job. I also did the shocktower trick and now theres tons of room. Thanx for offering the tip.. hey, is there any chance youd take your car over to the island for our race at the airport? (aug 14-15)
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Moneymaker
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posted 01-12-2004 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Race at the airport?????
Is that why Tomp hasn't been racing much lately?
Has he fitted wings to that Thunderbolt clone?????

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smblk t-bolt
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posted 01-15-2004 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for smblk t-bolt   Click Here to Email smblk t-bolt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Race at the airport?????"

we dont have a 1/4 mile strip on vancouver island(nearest one is mission) so 4 years ago we convinced the regional district(which also controls the airport) to allow us to hold a 2 day drag race on a weekend in the middle of august. our fisrt race was put togeather with less that a months notice(thats when we got the okay) and we had 120+ cars and 2500 spectators. it has grown over the last few years and last year, our 3rd race, we had 240 cars(roughly spread in 3 classes)and over 8000 spectators!.a lot of the cars were semi proffessional running in the 10 sec range.the fastest car ran around 7.60 at over 200.every year we've done some improvements to the airport(keep your landlord happy!),this year we built a 700 car dirt parking lot, next year a new burnout box access.all this is done with volunteer labour!
keep in mind that our town has a population of about 19,000 and is in the middle of nowhere.
anyways, enough patting ourselves on the back but it does go to show you that a dedicated group of people can do some good things.oh, we are now working towards our own motorsport park with 5-7 years being our goal!

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TomP
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posted 01-18-2004 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would hope to be there this year with my car.

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smblk t-bolt
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posted 01-19-2004 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for smblk t-bolt   Click Here to Email smblk t-bolt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
c l

ron

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