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Bloose
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From: Milwaukee, WI
Registered: Dec 2001

posted 04-25-2002 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bloose        Reply w/Quote
Now that the Flane is running one of my last jobs is to adjust the TV cable to the AOD. I have a Lokar cable installed. The Lokar instructions are little help. I did buy an extra oil pressure gauge just for the job, but don't know exactly where to hook it up or what to look for. Also, the Lokar instruction said to connect the carb end to the lowest spot on the throtle arm (on the carb). I have a 650 DP. Will that work? I have read that it will not. Please help, it is basically the final detail.

Thanks,
B-loose

Larry Jennings
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From: Redwood City, Ca. USA
Registered: Apr 2000

posted 04-26-2002 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry Jennings        Reply w/Quote
I took the last one I did to the trans shop for the final tweak. I just figured if I move this up a tranny person (of the automotive type ) might know your answer.

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Bloose
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From: Milwaukee, WI
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posted 04-26-2002 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bloose        Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the help getting me back up to the top.

Going to a trans shop in the Milwaukee area would be pretty hopeless. When I was just looking to get an AOD (was looking for a rebuilt) they told me it wouldn't work in the F-lane. I told them it would and I was just looking for a cash and carry unit. After being told there would be no warranty and that it was a bad idea and it wouldn't fit they gave me a price of $800 plus $200 core. Ya, right, I don't think so. I just wanted the trans not the whole car. Plus I could see them screwing it up just to get me to buy a trans from them now that they see it would fit. Can you tell I have been burned in the past.

One way or another I will keep this project in house as almost everything I do.

Thanks again,
B-loose

wvcat
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Posts: 320
From: New Cumberland,WV
Registered: May 2001

posted 04-28-2002 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wvcat        Reply w/Quote
I am running an AOD in my 70 cougar with a lokar cable and a holley 600. The way I did mine was to mount it in the furthest hole down and hook it up, feed the cable thru and pull it until I felt the arm move about a 1/4 inch and then tighten it down. I was suprised how much pressure it takes to pull the cable. Then I road tested it driving it easy until I knew how well it shifted. From there I adjusted it firmer but ended up backing it of because it was to harsh at part throttle. I have a bauman shift kit and mine chirps when it shifts if I'm getting on it. DON'T DRIVE IT VERY FAR IF IT DOESN'T SHIFT HARD ENOUGH...IT WILL BURN UP YOUR TRANS. Sorry to yell but I had to get your attention...lol When you have some time take it for a ride and adjust it a little bit at a time and you will have no problems. Pull out for harder shifts and let it slide back in to soften them.
Good Luck
John
wvcat

futurattraction
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From: Iowa City, IA
Registered: Oct 2001

posted 04-29-2002 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for futurattraction        Reply w/Quote
Hey wvcat,
How do yo like your AOD? Would you do it again? What kind of gears are you running in your rearend?
Scott

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Dusty Kiser
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From: Bethel,Oh USA
Registered: Mar 2002

posted 04-29-2002 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dusty Kiser        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bloose:
Now that the Flane is running one of my last jobs is to adjust the TV cable to the AOD. I have a Lokar cable installed. The Lokar instructions are little help. I did buy an extra oil pressure gauge just for the job, but don't know exactly where to hook it up or what to look for. Also, the Lokar instruction said to connect the carb end to the lowest spot on the throtle arm (on the carb). I have a 650 DP. Will that work? I have read that it will not. Please help, it is basically the final detail.

Thanks,
B-loose



B loose. The following is an edited excerpt from Mitchels On Demand computer program. Application is a '92 F150 w/ 5.0 so have edited the stuff about TV cable retainer clips etc. To adjust TV w/engine OFF make sure gear selector lever is in NEUTRAL. Ensure cable/hsg is routed correctly and moves freely. With throttle closed release adjustment retaining device at throttle so cable is free to adjust. Install one or two return springs as necessary to secure TV lever at transmission is in idle possition. This means springs should be fastened temorarily at the rear of the transmission case in order to hold TV lever in rear most position. With cable released at Throttle bracket and return springs in place rotate TV control lever at transmission approximately 10-30 degrees and return slowly. Lock adjuster in place and remove auxillary springs from trans case at TV lever.......... Hope this helps. The proceedure for adjusting with engine running is much more elaborate and too much to type. If this does not work for you, I can have it faxed to you or have my daughter scan it and email to you. Good luck.

Bloose
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From: Milwaukee, WI
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posted 04-30-2002 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bloose        Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the help guys. I took it for a drive yesterday. The trans shifted sort of harsh from 1-2 but good from 2-3 and 3-4. I backed off the cable slightly and it was a little better. But now it seems to not want to down shift soon enough. The harshness may go away as the trans gets a few miles on it. Also, it may be better when I put the shift kit in (Trans go). I wanted to wait until I made sure the trans was working before I put in the kit. I will try the above proceedures and see how that changes the harshness and shift points.

Thanks again,
B-loose

tomstir
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Posts: 138
From: San Jose CA USA
Registered: Jun 2000

posted 05-02-2002 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tomstir        Reply w/Quote
Bloose--I agree with you about the Lokar directions..or lack of!! My Ford book says:

1.Connect a 100psi gauge to the tv limit pressure tap on the right side of the case. There are two ports a little back from half way on the case just above the pan...the one you want is the rear port which is just slightly above the other one.
2.Verify that the throttle lever is at the idle stop. Idle the engine in neutral and set park brake.
3.Place a 1/16 in (1.6mm) drill or gauge between the linkage lever adjustment screw and throttle lever. CHECK THAT TV PRESSURE IS 5 PSI OR LOWER. If the tv pressure is above 5psi. the linkage is set too long. Back the screw out as necessary to reduce pressure.
4. Replace the 1/16 inch gauge with a 5/16 inch (8mm) gauge. With the engine idling in neutral, tv pressure must be at least 22psi. If the rv pressure is now lower than 22 psi, the control linkage is set too short. Turn the screw in as required to bring the pressure up to 22 psi.

NOTE: If the correct tv pressures cannot be set at the linkage lever adjustment screw, it may be necessary to adjust the control rod length at the transmission.

NOTE: Anytime that the curb idle speed is changed by 50 rpm or more, the adjustment of the linkage lever screw must be changed as follows for correct tv input.

I can't remember and am too tired to look for my directions but I think Lokar specified some sort of connector for the pressure....no one seems to have heard of that particular name before...do any of you? I went down to my local Ford dealership and asked a couple of mechanics about adjusting the aod and they agreed with what I wrote...to adjust the tranny with line pressure. Note: they all agreed that if the tranny was not adjusted properly it will not last?!!!!

I have not done any of this on mine...I bought another project...please keep me posted on how well yours turns out.

Tomstir

Bloose
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From: Milwaukee, WI
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posted 05-02-2002 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bloose        Reply w/Quote
Tomstir,

This is the exact thing I am looking for. I found a procedure from B+M but you need a 300psi and a 100psi gauge. Plus you need to use full throtle and full stall to set it up. It sounds like a PITA. The way you discribe sounds like just what I was looking for.

I have a question though. With the outlined procedure should I first pull the Lokar cable out 1/16 and then 5/16 with the motor idling? I don't have a way to put a "gauge between the linkage lever adjustment screw and throttle lever".

Thanks,
B-loose

[This message has been edited by Bloose (edited 05-04-2002).]

tomstir
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From: San Jose CA USA
Registered: Jun 2000

posted 05-06-2002 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tomstir        Reply w/Quote
Bloose--

I believe the 300psi gauge is to check for clutch and servo leakage...as well as troublshooting other major problems. My book doesn't get too specific-- "Record the line pressure and compare it with specifications." I can't find any "specifications" in the book. (Maybe Lokar wrote it.)

The Lokar TV cable is made to work with two other pieces. The return spring bracket and throttle cable. The return spring bracket has two holes in it to fit the throttle cable and the TV cable..kind of a neat setup. It seems like it might work best with all three pieces. About the measurements...when I first picked up my Falcon I did the transmission linkage adjustment (it has a TV ROD) and I just "eyeballed" the measurements. Handwritten in this book by the owner is "5 to 14psi at idle" and highlighted is "With the engine idling in neutral and a 5/16 gauge, TV pressure must be at least 22psi. I think the measurements are one way of adjustment and the pressure is another. Although you would want both of them to work out. I need to do both because sometimes it feels like it is "searching" at certain speeds.

Let me know how it turns out.

Tomstir

tomstir
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From: San Jose CA USA
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posted 05-17-2002 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tomstir        Reply w/Quote
Does it work????


Tomstir

Bloose
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posted 05-17-2002 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bloose        Reply w/Quote
I still don't get it exactly (but I havn't really had a chance to try it yet anyway). I don't exactly understand where I am supposed to measure the 1/16 and 5/16 from. Would this be, set pressure at idle, then as if the throtle lever moved 1/16th and then again with 5/16 movement?

I hope I am not being difficult but I don't quite get it?

Thanks for the help,
B-loose

tomstir
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From: San Jose CA USA
Registered: Jun 2000

posted 05-20-2002 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tomstir        Reply w/Quote
If I understand you correctly...the measurements are of the play before the throttle hits the TV rod. Does that make sense? Maybe we are just confusing each other

Tomstir

Bloose
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From: Milwaukee, WI
Registered: Dec 2001

posted 05-20-2002 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bloose        Reply w/Quote
I don't have a TV rod, I have a TV cable.

I played with it this weekend and installed a gauge in the gauge cluster for the TV pressure. This should make any further adjustment pretty easy. If I just figure out what I am doing now.

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