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3154tm
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From: Pensacola, Fl
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posted 04-13-2006 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3154tm        Reply w/Quote
hi all,
searched the archives and couldn't find anyone who has installed an aluminum radiator w/ electric fan that didn't have to
do some modification. does anyone know of an
after market set up that is bolt up. this is
for a '65 falcon w/ 289. thanks.
frank

69maverick
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From: Thomaston,CT.
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posted 04-13-2006 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69maverick        Reply w/Quote
Griffen makes a radiator for it. The fan setup is a seperate item go with the most CFM fan you can get for the radiator.

3154tm
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posted 04-14-2006 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3154tm        Reply w/Quote
a follow up question. when looking for a radiator for a '65 falcon can i simply look for one that fits '65 or '66 mustang? are the exactly the same? thanks.

69maverick
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posted 04-16-2006 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69maverick        Reply w/Quote
It may be but you would have to check the inlet and outlet position & the diameter.
They will give you the radiator dimentions as well.

3154tm
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posted 04-22-2006 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3154tm        Reply w/Quote
thanks to all for the thoughtful replies.
my problem has been to find a combination of radiator and
electric fan that will fit between the mounting flange on
the back of the grill and end of the water pump. when i
measured this distance i only got 4 1/2", barely. the
stock rad is 1 3/4" thick from mounting flange to back of
core, the griffin is 3" thick and needs a total of 6 1/2"
incl. the fan. has anyone foun a radiator and fan that will
fit in this space.
thanks.
frank

69maverick
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posted 04-23-2006 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69maverick        Reply w/Quote
There are two types of fans, pushers and pullers. Pullers are better but you may need to use a pusher. It will go in front of the radiator. You will only need a two core by 1" that will make the radiator about 2.5" in the area where the pulleys are. And you could always use an elelctrick water pump and this would really save space!

tezz
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posted 04-23-2006 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tezz        Reply w/Quote
I'm running a Griffin in my 63 Comet with a 302. I have a hipo 5 blade fan off the waterpump but run dual electric pushers set up with a manual switch for when it gets really hot or I'm stuck in traffic. The only thing I'd change is to make it thermostaticly switched so I don't miss it getting hot or forget to turn it off (did that once - it's noisy enough that I don't usually forget).

mizry
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posted 04-23-2006 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mizry        Reply w/Quote
even if you cut out the radiator support for a big radiator you still cant get a good electric fan to fit. best to use a 5 blade fan and a custom fan shroud that seals tight aginst the radiator and covers half the fan blade. I still wonder if a good aluminum radiator really coools better than a good three core copper/brass.

3154tm
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posted 04-28-2006 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3154tm        Reply w/Quote
just a follow up to the radiator/electric fan
problem. ford racing now offers a shorty water pump just for this situation.
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=FMS%2DM%2D8501%2DE351S&N=0&autoview=sku
but you have to use these pulleys
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=FMS-M-8509-R
and this spacer
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=FMS%2DM%2D8510%2DB351&N=0&autoview=sku
at least thats what the guy at ford motor sport tech said.
i've ordered the parts and i'll let everyone know how it goes.
frank

3154tm
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posted 04-28-2006 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3154tm        Reply w/Quote
i should have added that this is the spacer
that works with my harmonic balancer.
frank

3154tm
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posted 05-12-2006 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3154tm        Reply w/Quote
i've got the short nose water pump bolted up and looks like the northern
radiator and the 16" becool electric fan (2 1/2" thick) will just clear the nose of the water pump by about 3/4". problem is, now the alternator bracket needs to be changed. does anyone in the group have any experience with this?
thanks.
frank

3154tm
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posted 05-27-2006 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3154tm        Reply w/Quote
just a follow up to the last post. turns out the only pulley needed is for the water pump. because the alternator wasn't moved the crank pulley and alt pulley still line up.
i managed to persuade the original triangular alternator mounting bracket to work and found an alternator adjuster (D00E-10145-A) that was bolt up, even reused the old belt.
so i now have a larger aluminum radiator, an electric fan and just enough space to replace the fan belt.

69maverick
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posted 05-28-2006 02:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69maverick        Reply w/Quote
What radiator did you wind up buying?

3154tm
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From: Pensacola, Fl
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posted 05-28-2006 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3154tm        Reply w/Quote
the northern that summit sells.
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM%2D380462&N=4294924500+4294839040+400304+4294810996+4294908331+115&autoview=sku
by the way, the northern people were very helpful. 800.328.8900

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