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christang
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From: Colliers, WV, USA
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posted 09-24-2003 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for christang   Click Here to Email christang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everyone! Just thought I'd ask anyone here their opinion about a '65 Falcon that I came across and am considering buying.

It is a 2 door post sedan that was originally a 6 banger. It has been totally converted with V-8 Falcon Sprint front and rear suspension, with a 289 '65 A code Mustang engine with mild cam, 5,000 miles on rebuild, C4 tranny rebuilt with shift kit and B&M floor shift and 500 miles on it. It has a 9 inch open rear end but only has 2:56's in it.
The car came from Georgia and has absolutely NO rust on it whatsoever. It was painted red about 8 years ago with basecoat clearcoat and still shines great. Interior is like brand spanking new.

The insurance company's appraisal was for $12,000 (I know that is for insurance purposes) and the owner was asking $7,500 for it...I got him down to $5,500.

Any comments about this car or the deal? I'm supposed to let him know for sure if I'm taking it tomorrow or Friday. ...Thanks, Christine

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bob1963
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posted 09-24-2003 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bob1963   Click Here to Email bob1963     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Christine,I know that the insurance company,s appraisal may not be what to base what your willing to pay for the car.Maybe you should ask the seller if that appraisal amount is what the insuranse company would pay him if it was a total loss. I have a 1963 Falcon with over $20.000 in it.Insured with State Farm insurance. I had to show them all my receipts in order to get it insured for $10.000 total loss.The car is worth what the person has in it and can get for it or what the buyer is willing to pay.If it's a solid car and you like what you see,how it drives and runs.Go for it.

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christang
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posted 09-25-2003 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for christang   Click Here to Email christang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bob...Thanks for the response.

Insurance companies sure can be finicky can't they?!

I realize that when dealing with cars, or almost anything, the value of something is how much is it worth for one to pay for it...in other words how much is it worth to you!

I was kinda wondering if there was much of a demand out there in the muscle car world for these little Fords...or are they more or less undesireable? Don't seem to see very many of them at all at the car shows.

I did see one just like it at the drag races last week...had a 302 in it with 12:1 pistons and 289 hi-po heads and small Comp roller cam and 4:11 gears... ran like a bat out of hello!!! Turned an 11.97 in the 1/4. ...Chris

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bob1963
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posted 09-25-2003 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bob1963   Click Here to Email bob1963     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Christine,As always with any older car you may have more people interested in it if it has been unmolested. and if that particular car was a hard top it would be more desireable as well.Your looking at a car that has been built with performace in mind.You may want to check out some of the Falcon only web sites to get a better feel and maybe a broader audience.

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posted 09-25-2003 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JCQuinn@work   Click Here to Email JCQuinn@work     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Old car purchases are driven by either a desire to invest in something fun to drive and later break even on the investment or with luck make a profit. Others buy old cars because of personal preference for the body style. Either way the most important criteria is personal satisfactiion. If you really like the car and it would make you happy to own it, go for it.

$5500 is a reasonable price for a well built old Falcon. They will never have the marketability of the old Mustangs but there are a lot of people who like them. Some prefer the unaltered cars and others prefer the hot rod cars.

The important thing is what do you like?

John

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 09-25-2003 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Christine, if it's that solid and you really like it, that sounds like a fair price. For that kind of money, put it up on a lift and take a real close look at it. A car looks totally different on a lift, and it'll help you decide if you want it. Even better, ask the mechanic if he'd put a safety sticker on it.

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christang
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posted 09-26-2003 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for christang   Click Here to Email christang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks so much for all the opinions guys and greatly appreciated!!! I figured they don't have the marketability of the Mustangs...but that's why we have the Mach! Still...there is always someone out there who wants something a little different from the usual out there...and this car would fill that niche for sure.

My husband went with me today to check out the car himself (he's the one who found it and asked me if I'd check it out the first time, since he had to work) and crawled all over it, under it, and everything else. He was amazed at what great shape the car is in! The car has 62,000 original miles on it...and the body is like a new car. Mechanically my husband thought the guy did a tremendous job on it, engine ran REAL strong even with the 2:56 gears. My husband has a set of 3:73's with traction lock laying around...should run great with it. Think we're going to grab this one!

I'll post pictures once we get it here...have to wait for the transfer of paperwork etc. from PA to WV. Again, THANKS! ...Chris

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Riley
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posted 09-26-2003 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Riley   Click Here to Email Riley     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a 65 Futura hardtop V-8 4 speed car. They are fun, but will never bring a Mustang's price. If the car is almost perfect $5,500 is top price, but not unreasonable. 63 and 65 are the most popular years. A sedan is not worth the $ of a hardtop or a convertible. A converted 6 is not worth an original 8. Bench seats are worth less. Be sure to check the floors, under the rear seat, under the battery and inside the trunk (especially drip tray) for rust. You can also ask your question at www.falconman.com.

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christang
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posted 09-27-2003 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for christang   Click Here to Email christang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Riley...Thanks for the info! You pretty much said the exact same thing that my husband said about the value of them.

He just about went over the car with a fine tooth comb and was impressed with the workmanship in the car. He checked out the trunk area and said that he wished our Mach 1's had looked that good when he had first found it! ...Chris

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christang
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posted 09-27-2003 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for christang   Click Here to Email christang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Bob...I asked the seller this and he said that was for a total loss. I guess that's encouraging! ...Chris

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christang
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posted 09-27-2003 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for christang   Click Here to Email christang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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VERY true and good point. There are all types of personal preferences in cars!!!

I have a friend who took a perfectly good stock 70 Mach like ours, and stripped it down to the bare necessities, shoved a 460 in it and roll caged it, and does nothing but run it at the strip...he LOVES doing that. I would NEVER do that to our stock Mach!!! ...Christine

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christang
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posted 09-27-2003 01:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for christang   Click Here to Email christang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't know what happened to my quotes in the above posts!

What I had said to Bob was about the insurance quote being the total loss...

And to JCQuinn was about "some prefer the unaltered cars and others prefer the hot rod cars."

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bob1963
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posted 09-27-2003 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bob1963   Click Here to Email bob1963     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Christine,The way I look at things and the price of them,not only in cars but the car is a good example. if you like the car the price is reasonable and if you have the money to spend.Go get it."you only go around once in life." ( ENJOY )

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christang
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posted 09-27-2003 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for christang   Click Here to Email christang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Go get it."you only go around once in life." ( ENJOY)

Bob...Words spoken wisely! ...Chris

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roger
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posted 12-02-2003 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roger   Click Here to Email roger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
there is a very nice 64 Falcon sprint parked right next door to my office, a factory correct car which as we all know if your buying it to someday make money is the only way to go. But, personally i built my 63 for me, knowing i would never get what a factory well equipped car would sell for.
Anyway, the guy wants $4500 bucks for it, has been offered 3,000 & turned it down. the car is a two owner, the present owner has lost interest & has to move, so it may be priced a little lower than it should but i'd say the one your lookinmg at for 5500 is top dollar. If your buying it to drive & have fun don;t even hesitate, if your buyoing to someday make a pantload of money, forget it.

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christang
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posted 12-02-2003 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for christang   Click Here to Email christang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Roger...Here are some pictures of the Falcon, as we did buy it. There's also some of our Mach 1 that isn't quite finished yet!...Chris

http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrowse.asp?selected=462358

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posted 12-02-2003 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for christang   Click Here to Email christang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Roger...My husband said to tell you he helped build a '63 Sprint for his buddy back in 1970...had a 289 Hi-Po K code in it and 4-speed, 4:57 gears. He said the car SCREAMED!!! We could have bought it from him in 1976 for $1,250, but we had moved at the time, as we had just gotten married, and didn't have a garage at the time. Wish we had grabbed it! ...Chris

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