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Dan Starnes
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posted 10-02-2002 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dan Starnes   Click Here to Email Dan Starnes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Was wondering if the Versailles was the only Ford that had a 9" with disc brakes,, I have located one and want to be sure there is nothing else produced that might throw me off.
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Dan

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cpmaverick
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posted 10-03-2002 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpmaverick   Click Here to Email cpmaverick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They were the only leaf-spring 9" with discs I know of Dan. Bigger Lincolns had the same discs on wider, coil sprung axles.

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Dad Vishus
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posted 10-04-2002 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dad Vishus   Click Here to Email Dad Vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There was a Granada model that had disk brakes. Can't remember the model designation but it was from the late 70s. That would have had leaf springs.

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cpmaverick
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posted 10-05-2002 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpmaverick   Click Here to Email cpmaverick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's the same as the Versailles rearend. The Monarch and Granada had optional rear discs with a 9" from 1975-80.

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-Charlie Ping
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DidgeyTrucker
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posted 10-20-2002 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DidgeyTrucker   Click Here to Email DidgeyTrucker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lincoln MKV's had 9" rear ends with disc brakes. They are wider and have a 5x5" bolt pattern.

Tracy

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Dan Starnes
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posted 11-24-2002 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dan Starnes   Click Here to Email Dan Starnes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bit of an update here, I now have 2 9" Ford rearends. 1 is out of a 1965 T-bird which is a leaf spring car and the other is out of a Mark V Lincoln which is a coil spring car. Both housings will have to be cut to size and I am going to replace all the internal components. Was wondering if anyone had any input on sticking with the disc brake setup and welding on the shock and leafspring stuff or does anyone have a better idea. Also I have looked for a Versailles rearend but as of yet have not found one locally.
Dan

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cpmaverick
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posted 11-26-2002 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpmaverick   Click Here to Email cpmaverick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd look into swapping Explorer rear discs on the 'bird 9" Dan. Supposedly they are quite a bit lighter, and easier to find parts for.

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69maverick
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posted 11-27-2002 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69maverick   Click Here to Email 69maverick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is just my thoughts! Why the disk rearend anyway? One thing to keep in mind is that it is alot heavier! parts for
a regular 9" are easy to get. It will bolt right in with no mods. Its a very well respected rearend! Will the disk rear really stop that much better without ABS. Not to mention the E-Brake Questions. Has anyone thought about making an 8.8 work! out of a mustang? it would require spring perches and shock mounts!

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68 S-code GT
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posted 12-29-2002 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT   Click Here to Email 68 S-code GT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 69maverick:
Has anyone thought about making an 8.8 work! out of a mustang? it would require spring perches and shock mounts!

The mid-size guys have been talking about this, but I can?t see why going through all that trouble!

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69maverick
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posted 12-29-2002 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69maverick   Click Here to Email 69maverick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is kind of my thought to! But opposed to
the versailles rear it would be a snap! The one good part is that there are alot of 8.8s
out there and gears are cheaper!

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cpmaverick
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posted 12-29-2002 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpmaverick   Click Here to Email cpmaverick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It might be easier to find but not easier to install. It would be lighter, but less durable. I didn't think the gears were cheaper, but I'm not positive on that. It's all a big trade-off.

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Dan Starnes
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posted 12-30-2002 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dan Starnes   Click Here to Email Dan Starnes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is where I am at on my 9" install. I have a 66 t-bird rearend housing. The spring perches appear to be in the perfect spot. One thing I dont understand is why Ford used spacers on the perches to correct the pinion angle on these. I might have that corrected. Local machine shop is going to cut the housing and Strange is doing the center section and housing. Also am going the route of Cal-Traks. I am taking Charlie's advice and doing the explorer disc brake setup. Going with cross drilled rotors. Lots to do on the car yet with stress cracking being a major problem on the body. Looks as if I am going to have to go in and repair inferior welding, or brazing actually from when the car was hit early in its life. Thanks for everyones help and tech tips.
Dan

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cpmaverick
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posted 12-30-2002 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpmaverick   Click Here to Email cpmaverick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let us know how the Explorer discs work out Dan. When I feel the need to go to a 31 spline rearend, I'll need to sell my Versailles rear and go with something else. The Explorer discs look lighter and effective.

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Bluegras
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posted 01-03-2003 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluegras   Click Here to Email Bluegras     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Dan, I would have considered the Explorer 8.8 with disc and leaf springs and the HD truck center with the 31 splines. The price of the 8.8 gears is starting to come down a bit. The total weight should be less. I think you know about the brake requirements that have to be set up so the rear brakes donnot lock up before the front but also do there share of the brake work. If you need some thought on brake setup, E-mail me.
I have done disc front with drum rear using an adjustable valve in the rear line to get that balance needed.

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Dan Starnes
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posted 01-03-2003 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dan Starnes   Click Here to Email Dan Starnes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As some have questioned my use of a 9" in my Mav, the real reason is that I had it sitting around. Then when i measured and noticed that the spring perches were in the right spot, that kinda sealed the deal. Also it would be easier to stick with drum brakes, but at this stage of life ( I am 45) I am wanting challenging things to maintain my sanity. I have found kits that incorporate a very easy to do park brake on the rear disc setup. When all is done I will have something that is a little different than stock. I do realize that I dont need the rear disc brakes for anymore stopping power. As far as the 8.8 issue, I crawled under my 88 stang gt and instantly said NO Way on that one, just doesnt do much for me. But the posts have been an education in itself on this subject. Lots of knowledge here and I do appreciate everyone's thoughts. Thanks again
Dan

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