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cpmaverick
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posted 10-27-2001 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpmaverick   Click Here to Email cpmaverick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Went to Montgomery last night, had a great time. I basically just needed a lot of pratice launching, shifting, and properly heating up the tires. I got 7 passes in and whittled my ET from a 13.70 to a [email protected]!!

Here's my timeslip:

R/T - .690
60' - 1.93
1/8 ET - 8.353
MPH - 84.26
1/4 ET - 13.072
MPH - 103.71

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-Charlie Ping
1970 Maverick Grabber
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Daily Driver
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74merc
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posted 10-28-2001 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 74merc   Click Here to Email 74merc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I need some of your luck.
nice job man.

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kwazykat
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posted 10-28-2001 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kwazykat   Click Here to Email kwazykat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey charlie ping!!!
thats great!!

what a blast!


kk
hoping to hit the track again
one of these danged days!!!!

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bluestreek
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posted 10-29-2001 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestreek   Click Here to Email bluestreek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds like a real sleeper.. Those Mavs weren't near that fast from the factory..
Good job,
Dan

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cpmaverick
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posted 10-29-2001 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpmaverick   Click Here to Email cpmaverick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 74merc:
I need some of your luck.
nice job man.


No, NO. NO YOU DON'T

I had no vehicle for 12 days before my track trip. . I feel much better now though.

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69maverick
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posted 11-02-2001 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69maverick   Click Here to Email 69maverick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
way to go chuck! Maybe next I will have some numbers to post?

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bluestreek
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posted 11-04-2001 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestreek   Click Here to Email bluestreek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Charlie, since you have your Mav. running over 100 mph in the 1/4, maybe you can help me. I'm trying to get my stock headed 289 Mustang to do over 100 MPH in the 1/4 mi, and still be streetable.. My best mph so far is 99 and I can't seem to get it over the hump..

Here's my setup:

289 block .060 over flattops
stock heads mildly ported with 1.85 int. 1.55 exh.
230/.512 lift Lunati hydraulic cam
Rpm intake
650 DP and 14x 3" breather
Hooker Competition headers

Should I try a different cam?? Maybe solid or roller..?? I just need a little more torque and HP on the low end I think.. I need it before next weekend..

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cpmaverick
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posted 11-04-2001 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpmaverick   Click Here to Email cpmaverick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll tell you what, most people don't think my car should be as quick as it is with such a mild combo. I attribute this to the little things, like:

full roller valvetrain
electric fuel pump
electric fan
No P/S
Late model 302 (thinner rings, lighter crank, less rotating mass)

All these things also help MPG, which is about 15 city / 19 hwy.

Basically, I have your setup except for 1.7:1 roller rockers and a roller cam (B303)

I honestly don't know much about camshafts, so I can't really say if yours is right or wrong, but the B303 is well matched to my setup (GT40 valves & stock ported heads). You might think about trying a 1.7:1 rocker or a stock ratio roller rocker if you don't have roller rockers already.

You might just need some practice shifting to find the sweet spot; I found that shifting at 5800 resulted in a much better MPH than shifting at 6200 or 6000.

I was in your same position until the above-mentioned track trip. My best run was a 13.74@100. I made no changes, just made 8 runs and changed shift points and tire psi, that's it. I eventually picked up almost 4 MPH and .7 in the ET. So practice gave me a much faster car

[This message has been edited by cpmaverick (edited 11-04-2001).]

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bluestreek
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posted 11-04-2001 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestreek   Click Here to Email bluestreek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe I've been tryin to push her too hard.. I just got to try out my BFG DRs and I probably just need more time behind the wheel, like you said.. Next time I'll try different launch rpms and different shift points..

THANKS!

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cpmaverick
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posted 11-04-2001 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpmaverick   Click Here to Email cpmaverick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, no problem. I'm going to Montgomery Friday night and maybe Steele on Sunday. Looking for my first trip to the 12s

So good luck at Commerce and maybe you should stop by Steele on Sunday if you need more practice, T&T is from 1 to 11 or so.

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Fastymz
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posted 11-05-2001 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those are some great times.That a big improvement from one night.Good luck on the 12's
Ron

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Fastymz
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posted 11-05-2001 01:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Charlie I agree about the all the little things add up.And finding just the right combo makes a big difference.
Ron

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65 Coupe with a 351w, RPM intake,carter625,shorty 1-5/8 headers,2.5 exhaust,Flowmasters,Black Magic electric fan,stock C4,peg leg 8" 2:80,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,Cragers SS,Black Suede finish.
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bluestreek
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posted 11-05-2001 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestreek   Click Here to Email bluestreek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Charlie, a couple things I forgot to ask you.. What jets do you run in your 650 Holley and do you use a spacer? What ignition system and total spark advance? Thanks for your time!

PS: I noticed that I ran some better 60' times than you did last time out and still haven't worked my launch up over 4500.. 1.87-1.90. I did this after moving the battery to the right rear and installing a set of Napa HD rear shocks from a '73 Cougar.. They are a bit larger and stiffer on the rise than the stock gas shocks.. I also put a 25lb ballast over the left rear tire..The BFGs were set at 18 PSI.. I go around the water box and back in, and after bringing the engine up to 6000 rpms in 2nd gear in the edge of the water box, I release the brake and let the car spin as far as it will at WOT.. This allows the tires to get rid of any water and pick up some "sticky" from the track.. It would bog down from the traction about 1/2 way to staging line..

By no means trying to tell you what to do, but just my experience on a light-a$$ed '66 Stang..

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cpmaverick
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posted 11-05-2001 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpmaverick   Click Here to Email cpmaverick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
66 front, 74 rear

I run a Holley Annihilator Ignition triggered by a 1985 Mustang GT HO distributor.

I haven't ever checked my total advance, I should be ashamed. It definitely needs to be checked as I'm sure I could gain some MPH there.

I ran 12 psi in my BFGs, maybe I need to up it a little. Thanks for the launch tips.

No doubt my car is lighter than yours, and that certainly improves my MPH.

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74merc
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posted 11-09-2001 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 74merc   Click Here to Email 74merc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
trust me Charlie, I need your luck.
tranny leaking(working on it)
oil pan leaking(not bad enough to pull the engine to fix it yet)
gotta do some minor front end work, alignment, tires, alternator took it out for a week, I fixed the alternator, screwed up again, wiring came loose, fixed that and she died on the way to pick up my kid from school. limped back home to swap cars, took a look in the carb and the driver's side was literalling dripping fuel onto the butterfly...
she's flooding quite nicely, on top of the fact methinks my intake took a dump.
it had a hairline crack that I had welded when I got it, now it doesn't run worth a crap.

so, whats a good(preferably cheap)aluminum intake for a car that will be *slightly* more streetable than yours?

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cpmaverick
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posted 11-10-2001 02:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpmaverick   Click Here to Email cpmaverick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You don't need to pull the engine to change the oil pan gasket . In fact you don't even need to raise the engine at all. Remove the swaybar and unbolt the idler arm to drop the center link enough and it'll drop right out.

My oil pan is leaking a little too. No big deal.

My intake is perfectly streetable, a dual plane Weiand Stealth. I love it. A cheap aluminum intake can be found on the 1983-1985 Mustang 5.0Ls, or any used edlebrock or weiand should be good.

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74merc
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posted 11-10-2001 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 74merc   Click Here to Email 74merc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
do you have the V8 crossbar on yours?
seems it was in the way too... I'll go look again tho... not like I'm worried about alignment right now anyway...

btw, I know yours is streetable, but unless I trip over a roller block, my setup is going to be a tad calmer than yours, thats all I meant.

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