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Wayne Brooks
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From: Winfield, Ks. 67156
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posted 07-03-2004 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wayne Brooks   Click Here to Email Wayne Brooks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could someone dicipher this VIN # for me......1F93M523841? I know it is 71 XR7. Has alot of goodies. Interested in the engine mainly. Can get the entire car at a reasonable price. It is a complete car with discs, tach and in pretty good shape. Would part out or sell the whole car if anyone is interested.

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68 S-code GT
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posted 07-07-2004 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT   Click Here to Email 68 S-code GT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1 would be for 71

F would be the plant, Dearborn

93 would be the body code, XR7 Hardtop

M is the engine, 351-4V C

523841 is the consecutive unit 23841

A lot of info is here
http://www.cougarclub.org/database.shtml

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Ed S.

68 S-code FB GT 4spd(now C6)/3.25 PS PDB
68 J-code(now 289) Cp Sprint"B" C4/3L00-9" PDB PS AC
99 F150 XLT Ext/cab, 4X4, 5.4L, 3L55

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Wayne Brooks
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posted 07-08-2004 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wayne Brooks   Click Here to Email Wayne Brooks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your help. One last question, would these heads be standard 4v heads, good or bad? Have a 2v head engine now switching to the 4v.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 07-08-2004 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They would be the 4V closed chamber heads. You would see a 4 in the upper corners by the valve covers. In my opinion the '70 and '71 closed chamber are the best Cleveland heads, aside from the Boss heads.

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open
'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
'72 Mustang Sprint Hardtop 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 07-08-2004 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 68 S-code GT:
523841 is the consecutive unit 23841

Small correction: 523841 would mean it would be the 423,841st car built at the Dearborn plant that year. The consecutive numbers start at 100001.

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open
'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
'72 Mustang Sprint Hardtop 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip

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68 S-code GT
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posted 07-12-2004 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT   Click Here to Email 68 S-code GT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
Small correction: 523841 would mean it would be the 423,841st car built at the Dearborn plant that year. The consecutive numbers start at 100001.


Thought that I saw on that Cougar site that the consecutive digits started at 500,000 for the Cougar or that plant but maybe I didn?t read it correctly.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 07-12-2004 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe you are right? I never heard of that.

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open
'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
'72 Mustang Sprint Hardtop 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip

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Wayne Brooks
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posted 07-13-2004 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wayne Brooks   Click Here to Email Wayne Brooks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

So you're saying $25.00 isn't too much for the entire engine minus the water pump...already bought the engine. Thanks for the reply.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 07-14-2004 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Smoking deal.

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open
'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
'72 Mustang Sprint Hardtop 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip

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85Stangs
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posted 07-17-2004 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 85Stangs   Click Here to Email 85Stangs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe those will be 4V open chamber heads. Have not seen any 71 Closed chamber heads other than the Boss 351. That motor should have 4 bolt mains as well. Either way its a GREAT deal. If the block is standard its worth more than the heads are.

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Hemikiller
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posted 07-29-2004 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemikiller   Click Here to Email Hemikiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
85Stangs; the "M" code motor is a close chambered, 2 bolt main motor. You are thinking of the very late 71 "Q" code motor that had open chambered heads and a 4-bolt block......

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 08-22-2004 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 68 S-code GT:
Thought that I saw on that Cougar site that the consecutive digits started at 500,000 for the Cougar or that plant but maybe I didn?t read it correctly.

I was looking up something in my 1970 Ford shop manual this morning and I found that you are absolutely right.

In a section titled 'Consecutive Unit Number' they list:
'Starting Serial Numbers - 1970 Passenger cars:'
100,001 - Ford, Fairlane, Falcon, Mustang, Thunderbird, Maverick.
500,001 - Mercury, Meteor, Montego, Cougar.
800,001 - Lincoln Continental and Mark III.

That's a cool thing to know.

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open
'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
'72 Mustang Sprint Hardtop 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip

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