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TurboGT
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posted 03-25-2002 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TurboGT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anybody tried this for a "driver" type of car (PS, PB, A/C)? If so, any recommendations for headers, oil pan, intake, etc.? Got a time-bomb 3.8 N/A in place in a '92 Cougar presently...

Thanks, Mark

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wvcat
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posted 03-25-2002 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wvcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From what I understand the cougar platform is the same as the fox body used by the mustang, all the pieces should work for a mustang swap. I've never done it but you will need an oil pan and pickup, you can steal all the accessory brackets from a ford truck/crown vic/marquis. If your doing a fuel injection swap I'm lost on that but a carb should be easy, all you need is a lokar throtle cable(69.99) for the AOD. I'm not sure if the trans bolts up either. Sounds like a cool swap, keep us posted.
Good Luck
John

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TurboGT
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posted 03-25-2002 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TurboGT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The actual fox body stopped in '88 for Cougars and T-birds, and they went to this new platform with independent rear suspension. Is the front suspension the same between the two then? If so, it shouldn't be too painful.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 03-25-2002 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It shouldn't be a problem at all, since they came with 5.0s. You may need one of those fox/351C conversion oil pans, depending on your crossmember situation.

Your bigger problem may be getting it past emission inspections.

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 M code 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 open
'72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Lok
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TurboGT
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posted 03-25-2002 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TurboGT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was just wondering if I could pull this off with parts that are laying around. I didn't figure I'd get out of buying one of those "swap" rear sump oil pans, but what about headers? Would early Cleveland Cougar/Mustang/Torino headers even come close?

Emissions inspection? It's a 5.0, right? Fortunately, we don't have the sniffer in this area yet.

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MLariviere
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posted 03-25-2002 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MLariviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 351C is a 5.8.

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wvcat
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posted 03-25-2002 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wvcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I posted earier I was thinking windsor, I think you will have a more difficult time installing a cleveland than a windsor. I'm not sure if you will be able to find cleveland headers for it, you may have to have a set made or buy swap headers for a mustang that may need altered.
Good Luck
John

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http://www.geocities.com/wvxr7cougar/wvcat_01.html?989286238390

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TurboGT
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posted 03-26-2002 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TurboGT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I realize the 351 is a 5.8. I meant "in the eyes of the emissions test" it's a 5.0. I was thinking that I could dress it up to look similar to a 5.0, by using the EFI intake from one (there are intake adapters to do this) and serpentine belt arrangement.

Thanks for the help guys. It looks like I'm blazing some new trails with this swap!

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MLariviere
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posted 03-26-2002 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MLariviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a company {Sanderson?} that makes blockhugger headers for a 351C 4v. These should go in just aboout anything. As for the oilpan...

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