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Topic: '03-'04 Cobra VS fully restored '67-70 muscle
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66drop
Gearhead Posts: 192
From: Roseville Ca
Registered: Jul 2004
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posted 03-23-2006 08:52 AM
 
If you already had an old school(66drop-smile) and had approx. $30,000 for another mustang would you spend your money on another classic muscle car or more hp and the improved handling of a newer school?------------------
'66 Vert, 289, 3speed, w/procars.
A removable 14in grant steering wheel.
Granada disk break swap.
15x7&15x8 steel styles w/225-60-15's.
Front & rear sways.
5-leaf rear leaf sprrings and magnaflows. [This message has been edited by 66drop (edited 03-23-2006).]
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Ryan Wilke
Gearhead Posts: 3237
From: Stanton, Michigan, zip 48888
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 03-23-2006 09:35 AM
Neither. If I was in your situation, I think I'd take half of the 30K$ and put it into some upgrades & improvements to the 66drop. You can only drive one at a time, right!? Then with the other 15K$, take the time to map out a way-cool 2-3 week long road trip. Probably in mid/late August.... since you're in CA, I'd go up to Alaska and across Canada then back down around Niagria Falls, then head down to Indy and attend the US Nationals Labor Day week! Then, I'd ease my way back west again across the mid section of the US avoiding the excessive heat and congestion of the east and south. But that's just what I'd do,,,,, 
Keep us posted on YOUR decision! Ryan 
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66drop
Gearhead Posts: 192
From: Roseville Ca
Registered: Jul 2004
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posted 03-23-2006 10:14 AM
My goodness Ryan i had to catch my breath after reading your post --thats a lot of driving. 
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mustangboy
Gearhead Posts: 1343
From: Ont, Canada
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 03-23-2006 12:16 PM
I love the new(2005-2006) mustangs and I'd buy one in a heartbeat if I had the extra money.They have performance and overall driveability the old cars can only dream about and now they have the looks and cool factor as well.------------------
68 J-Code,Sprint,306 4 speed,4.11s 13.69@101...............
66 coupe 289 4 speed, 3.20 cruiser http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/MembersPics/mustangboy.html http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/MembersPics/mustangboy2.html [This message has been edited by mustangboy (edited 03-23-2006).]
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Ryan Wilke
Gearhead Posts: 3237
From: Stanton, Michigan, zip 48888
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 03-23-2006 12:51 PM
quote:
Originally posted by 66drop:
My goodness Ryan i had to catch my breath after reading your post --thats a lot of driving.
LOL!
Ok, well maybe make a smaller "loop" then.... but my suggestion would be the same. Improve what you have, and enjoy it to the MAX! Ryan
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66drop
Gearhead Posts: 192
From: Roseville Ca
Registered: Jul 2004
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posted 03-23-2006 01:02 PM
Nice pics mustangboy! I see why you would want to go new school you've already got the old school base covered  . But would you really spend $54,000 on a GT - i checked out a few local dealers the other day. The couple of GT's i looked at were $26,000 MSRP, with a $10,000 dealership mark up, and then another $18,000 grand after Cal Concepts got done with them,WOW. I'm wondering what cal concepts does besides ralley stripes,rims,tires,and the rear qrt window covers, which are plastic. Don't get me wrong the new ones are HOT,but should we really spend that much? Are they worth it the front ends are all plastic . If we keep this up in a few years what will we have to pay for a GT $75,000- somebody help me please (smile). I though the mustang was supposed to be the affordable(working-mans)sportscar.[This message has been edited by 66drop (edited 03-23-2006).]
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buening
Gearhead Posts: 317
From: Decatur, IL
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted 03-23-2006 01:57 PM
If you want to lose money on the deal, then get a new one and watch it's value depreciate. If you want to keep your investment, get another classic and it will never go down in value. That's my motto, and why my 70 mach is my daily driver.
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1970 Grabber Blue Mach 1 H-code
1970 Fastback
2003 Torch Red Mustang
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 22791
From: Reno Nv M&M #1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 03-23-2006 02:37 PM
I would buy a new Mustang today if I could. But I wouldn't pay the $10,000 dealership mark up  and no way would I go for the $18,000 to Cal Concepts. Id shop aroound for a GT with all the opions and colors I wanted. Then add my own performance add on's. The best of both would to build 65 with all new and upgraded parts. ------------------
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs HOOD HACKERS DELIGHT!
My Pics
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buening
Gearhead Posts: 317
From: Decatur, IL
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted 03-23-2006 03:39 PM
If you are wanting a newer one, get a used program vehicle. My fiance' bought an 03 v6 mustang for $12k and it had 12k miles on it straight from the dealership. The 04s (new at the time) were almost double that. Her car was basically new, just without the markup and depriciation from driving it off the lot. My mother used to work for a ford dealership and she did all the paperwork. There is a special sheet they have and it states what they paid for the car and what they are making in the deal. I think it is called the blue sheet or the red sheet. If i remember i'll ask her exactly what it was called. When we bought the 03, i asked the salesman if i could see it and he couldn't believe i even knew what it was and acted nervous after i asked. He showed me the sheet and they made a whopping $600 off that car ------------------
1970 Grabber Blue Mach 1 H-code
1970 Fastback
2003 Torch Red Mustang
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66drop
Gearhead Posts: 192
From: Roseville Ca
Registered: Jul 2004
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posted 03-23-2006 07:39 PM
Yea, i'de have almost NO issues with paying $26,000 with my int. options and the color i wanted. My only problem would be geting some one to lay those nice thick ralley stripes down the middle
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FSTBK65
Gearhead Posts: 483
From: Salem, Virginia 24153
Registered: May 2004
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posted 03-23-2006 11:49 PM
Back when the 03-04 cobras came out I had a guy with an 03 try to trade me straight up for mine, and the car had like 200 miles on it. I said "Whats your car going to be worth in 2 years? Ok. Whats my car going to be worth in 2 years?"
But he did let me drive it though. 6speed, supercharger, plenty of power but very quite and rode very nice.
I couldnt trade because of the sentimental value of my fastback.------------------
65 fastback. 302, Paxton Supercharger 7PSI, Edelbrock heads and intake, comp cam, Motorsport rockers,flowtechs with cutouts, x pipe and 2.5in flowmasters. Subframe connectors and shelby traction bars. 4 speed, hurst shifter,Zoom clutch. 368hp and 378ft lbs at the wheels on pump gas. 8.01 @ 87.72 mph 1/8 mi with a 1.78 60ft.
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Ryan Wilke
Gearhead Posts: 3237
From: Stanton, Michigan, zip 48888
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 03-24-2006 08:16 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
The best of both would to build 65 with all new and upgraded parts.
Here ya go SCOOP: http://www.sn65.com/ Ryan
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zieber
Gearhead Posts: 172
From: Central Coast, CA, USA
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted 03-24-2006 02:00 PM
I would say get a classic because they have more style except for the fact that you already have one. Those 2005+ models don't look too bad though...
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senzstang
Gearhead Posts: 530
From: perry, oh, usa
Registered: May 2002
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posted 03-24-2006 04:24 PM
$10,000 dealer markup!  I tell you what - Pick out what you like buy it over the phone from a dealer here in the Cleveland area where NO ONE is getting a $10G markup and I will drive it out to you for $5,000!!! Phil
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 22791
From: Reno Nv M&M #1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 03-24-2006 04:44 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Ryan Wilke:
Here ya go SCOOP:http://www.sn65.com/ Ryan
Thats very cool, but I'm not much of Fastback guy. Besides wherse's the big scoop???  I like this one better,to bad it's a FB. http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/mustang_1965.asp ------------------
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs HOOD HACKERS DELIGHT!
My Pics [This message has been edited by Fastymz (edited 03-24-2006).]
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GTRocks
Gearhead Posts: 4800
From: Lusby, MD
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 03-24-2006 07:35 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/mustang_1965.asp
That's one of my favorites, too!
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Mooney
Gearhead Posts: 2357
From: Marietta, Ga
Registered: Oct 2003
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posted 03-24-2006 07:39 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
Thats very cool, but I'm not much of Fastback guy. Besides wherse's the big scoop??? I like this one better,to bad it's a FB. http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/mustang_1965.asp
Isn't that the car they took a perfectly good K code car when they could have taken a beater T code and done the same damn thing?
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 22791
From: Reno Nv M&M #1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 03-24-2006 07:46 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Mooney:
Isn't that the car they took a perfectly good K code car when they could have taken a beater T code and done the same damn thing?
Maybe? Either way it's a nice ride.
There are very few cars I wouldn't cut up to make it custom. A K-code wouldn't be one of them. ------------------
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs HOOD HACKERS DELIGHT!
My Pics
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johnmustang
Gearhead Posts: 6748
From: British Columbia , Canada
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 03-24-2006 08:12 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
I'm not much of Fastback guy.I like this one better,to bad it's a FB.
Scoop, What is wrong with you, have you been sniffing ricer exhaust or something . Fastbacks are the holy grail of all mustangs and you do not care for them, shame on you, shame-shame-shame . I would get myself another classic mustang before I got myself a new one, I guess I am just old school and prefer the look and sound of the original muscle cars. Don`t get me wrong I think the new ones are very nice and they are much safer and easier to drive then the classics, but there is something to be said for the originals. Yes Scoop I would even buy a coupe ------------------
JOHN
65 FASTBACK 2+2
87 TAURUS WAGON
03 F150 XLT SUPER CREW 4X4 SHORT BOX
Member: PACIFIC COAST MUSTANG ASSOCIATION
Member:Vancouver Island Mustang Association
M&M #1710
65 FASTBACK
2003 F150 XLT SUPER CREW 4X4
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 22791
From: Reno Nv M&M #1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 03-24-2006 08:40 PM
quote:
Originally posted by johnmustang:
Scoop,What is wrong with you, have you been sniffing ricer exhaust or something . Fastbacks are the holy grail of all mustangs and you do not care for them, shame on you, shame-shame-shame .
What is wrong with me?
You've seen my car that should explain it all.
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oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs HOOD HACKERS DELIGHT!
My Pics
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Mooney
Gearhead Posts: 2357
From: Marietta, Ga
Registered: Oct 2003
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posted 03-24-2006 08:43 PM
Now this.. is the bees knees:
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/fr100_paneltruck.asp
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johnmustang
Gearhead Posts: 6748
From: British Columbia , Canada
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 03-24-2006 09:24 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
What is wrong with me?
You've seen my car that should explain it all.
Yes I have seen your car and it is very . I just can not understand why people do not care for fastbacks, it makes me sad  .
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JOHN
65 FASTBACK 2+2
87 TAURUS WAGON
03 F150 XLT SUPER CREW 4X4 SHORT BOX
Member: PACIFIC COAST MUSTANG ASSOCIATION
Member:Vancouver Island Mustang Association
M&M #1710
65 FASTBACK
2003 F150 XLT SUPER CREW 4X4
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johnmustang
Gearhead Posts: 6748
From: British Columbia , Canada
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 03-24-2006 09:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Mooney:
Now this.. is the bees knees:
Bees have knees ------------------
JOHN
65 FASTBACK 2+2
87 TAURUS WAGON
03 F150 XLT SUPER CREW 4X4 SHORT BOX
Member: PACIFIC COAST MUSTANG ASSOCIATION
Member:Vancouver Island Mustang Association
M&M #1710
65 FASTBACK
2003 F150 XLT SUPER CREW 4X4
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Mooney
Gearhead Posts: 2357
From: Marietta, Ga
Registered: Oct 2003
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posted 03-24-2006 10:29 PM
quote:
Originally posted by johnmustang:
Bees have knees
Always thought it was an old person term.. thought it'd be perfect for here
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Ryan Wilke
Gearhead Posts: 3237
From: Stanton, Michigan, zip 48888
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 03-25-2006 11:30 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Mooney:
Now this.. is the bees knees:
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/fr100_paneltruck.asp
That is a WAY panel truck! I'll bet Dale wouldn't mind driving that baby! However, If I would have had a say in it's construction, I'd of preferred seeing them drop in a 514" crate instead. YEAH BABY!! Ryan
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ekbeanctr
Gearhead Posts: 772
From: Middlebury, IN USA
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 03-26-2006 03:23 PM
Originally posted by Fastymz:
Thats very cool, but I'm not much of Fastback guy. Besides wherse's the big scoop??? I like this one better,to bad it's a FB.
Scoop,
I think my heart is broken I can't believe I would ever hear you say "To bad its a fastback". WAIT, I KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS - YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN A FASTBACK WITH A BIG ENOUGH SCOOP ON IT !!
Ernie ------------------
Red Fire Clearcoat 65 Fastback, 408W. AFR Heads, Hooker SuperComp Headers, 292H Cam. 750 Holley, 4 Speed, 9" Posi Rear End
[email protected]
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/801279/1 [This message has been edited by ekbeanctr (edited 03-26-2006).]
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SundanceKid
Gearhead Posts: 1302
From: UT
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 03-26-2006 04:17 PM
I'm with Scoop. Coupes are muscle cars, fastbacks are European sports cars. I prefer the muscular look of a coupe over the elegant look of a fastback. That and the fact no one builds $$$$ nice coupes. Nice $$$$ fastbacks are a dime a dozen.
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johnmustang
Gearhead Posts: 6748
From: British Columbia , Canada
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 03-26-2006 10:48 PM
quote:
Originally posted by SundanceKid:
fastbacks are European sports cars.
Now I never thought I would hear a mustang guy say that. Talk about a low blow
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JOHN
65 FASTBACK 2+2
87 TAURUS WAGON
03 F150 XLT SUPER CREW 4X4 SHORT BOX
Member: PACIFIC COAST MUSTANG ASSOCIATION
Member:Vancouver Island Mustang Association
M&M #1710
65 FASTBACK
2003 F150 XLT SUPER CREW 4X4
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mellowyellow
Gearhead Posts: 8198
From: So. Fl.
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 03-27-2006 07:54 AM
Coops are for chickens , , . , , ,:confused.
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 22791
From: Reno Nv M&M #1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 03-27-2006 04:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ekbeanctr:
Scoop,
I think my heart is broken I can't believe I would ever hear you say "To bad its a fastback". WAIT, I KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS - YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN A FASTBACK WITH A BIG ENOUGH SCOOP ON IT !!
Ernie
You know I really like your car. Heck I've even printed out pictures of it to show my dad and others. Even if it's a FB and RED too ------------------
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs HOOD HACKERS DELIGHT!
My Pics
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 22791
From: Reno Nv M&M #1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 03-27-2006 04:56 PM
quote:
Originally posted by SundanceKid:
I'm with Scoop. Coupes are muscle cars, fastbacks are European sports cars. I prefer the muscular look of a coupe over the elegant look of a fastback. That and the fact no one builds $$$$ nice coupes. Nice $$$$ fastbacks are a dime a dozen.
I could agree with that, the FB do remind me more of road racers,then HOTRODS.
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oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs HOOD HACKERS DELIGHT!
My Pics
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mustangs68
Moderator Posts: 27681
From: Hampton Va MCA#39406 M&M #12 Member Mustang Club of Tidewater
Registered: May 99
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posted 03-27-2006 05:54 PM
I think you guys mean Hardtops,Mustangs never came as a Coupe And besides,the Hardtop was marketed toward women to begin with Sam
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 22791
From: Reno Nv M&M #1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 03-27-2006 05:57 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mustangs68:
I think you guys mean Hardtops,Mustangs never came as a Coupe And besides,the Hardtop was marketed toward women to begin with Sam
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oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs HOOD HACKERS DELIGHT!
My Pics
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SundanceKid
Gearhead Posts: 1302
From: UT
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 03-27-2006 06:05 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mustangs68:
And besides,the Hardtop was marketed toward women to begin with Sam
Maybe thats why me and Scoop are always beating the girls off with a stick?
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 22791
From: Reno Nv M&M #1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 03-27-2006 06:07 PM
LOL ------------------
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs HOOD HACKERS DELIGHT!
My Pics
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sprcoop
Gearhead Posts: 780
From: Tucson, AZ usa
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 03-27-2006 08:20 PM
I know mine is a babe magnet, or is that just me?  Main Entry: cou?p?
Variant(s): or coupe /k?-'pA, 2 often 'k?p/
Function: noun
Etymology: French coup?, from past participle of couper to cut, strike
1 : a four-wheeled closed horse-drawn carriage for two persons inside with an outside seat for the driver in front
2 usually coupe : a 2-door automobile often seating only two persons; also : one with a tight-spaced rear seat The last half of #2 is a very close description of my car.
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GTRocks
Gearhead Posts: 4800
From: Lusby, MD
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 03-27-2006 08:42 PM
Nah, plenty of room back there for the babes!!
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KILLER65
Journeyman Posts: 36
From: sinton, tx. san patricio
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 03-27-2006 10:27 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mellowyellow:
Coops are for chickens , , . , , ,:confused.
I like that one. LOL
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66drop
Gearhead Posts: 192
From: Roseville Ca
Registered: Jul 2004
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posted 03-27-2006 10:28 PM
Nice ride! The time & money was well worth it What a magnet
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