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66drop
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From: Roseville Ca
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posted 03-23-2006 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66drop        Reply w/Quote
If you already had an old school(66drop-smile) and had approx. $30,000 for another mustang would you spend your money on another classic muscle car or more hp and the improved handling of a newer school?

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'66 Vert, 289, 3speed, w/procars.
A removable 14in grant steering wheel.
Granada disk break swap.
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Ryan Wilke
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posted 03-23-2006 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ryan Wilke        Reply w/Quote
Neither.

If I was in your situation, I think I'd take half of the 30K$ and put it into some upgrades & improvements to the 66drop. You can only drive one at a time, right!?

Then with the other 15K$, take the time to map out a way-cool 2-3 week long road trip. Probably in mid/late August.... since you're in CA, I'd go up to Alaska and across Canada then back down around Niagria Falls, then head down to Indy and attend the US Nationals Labor Day week! Then, I'd ease my way back west again across the mid section of the US avoiding the excessive heat and congestion of the east and south.

But that's just what I'd do,,,,,
Keep us posted on YOUR decision!

Ryan

66drop
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From: Roseville Ca
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posted 03-23-2006 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66drop        Reply w/Quote
My goodness Ryan i had to catch my breath after reading your post --thats a lot of driving.

mustangboy
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posted 03-23-2006 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangboy        Reply w/Quote
I love the new(2005-2006) mustangs and I'd buy one in a heartbeat if I had the extra money.They have performance and overall driveability the old cars can only dream about and now they have the looks and cool factor as well.

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Ryan Wilke
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posted 03-23-2006 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ryan Wilke        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 66drop:
My goodness Ryan i had to catch my breath after reading your post --thats a lot of driving.

LOL!
Ok, well maybe make a smaller "loop" then.... but my suggestion would be the same. Improve what you have, and enjoy it to the MAX!

Ryan

66drop
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From: Roseville Ca
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posted 03-23-2006 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66drop        Reply w/Quote
Nice pics mustangboy! I see why you would want to go new school you've already got the old school base covered . But would you really spend $54,000 on a GT - i checked out a few local dealers the other day. The couple of GT's i looked at were $26,000 MSRP, with a $10,000 dealership mark up, and then another $18,000 grand after Cal Concepts got done with them,WOW. I'm wondering what cal concepts does besides ralley stripes,rims,tires,and the rear qrt window covers, which are plastic. Don't get me wrong the new ones are HOT,but should we really spend that much? Are they worth it the front ends are all plastic . If we keep this up in a few years what will we have to pay for a GT $75,000- somebody help me please (smile). I though the mustang was supposed to be the affordable(working-mans)sportscar.

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buening
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posted 03-23-2006 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for buening        Reply w/Quote
If you want to lose money on the deal, then get a new one and watch it's value depreciate. If you want to keep your investment, get another classic and it will never go down in value. That's my motto, and why my 70 mach is my daily driver.

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Fastymz
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posted 03-23-2006 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz        Reply w/Quote
I would buy a new Mustang today if I could. But I wouldn't pay the $10,000 dealership mark up and no way would I go for the $18,000 to Cal Concepts. Id shop aroound for a GT with all the opions and colors I wanted. Then add my own performance add on's.

The best of both would to build 65 with all new and upgraded parts.

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buening
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posted 03-23-2006 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for buening        Reply w/Quote
If you are wanting a newer one, get a used program vehicle. My fiance' bought an 03 v6 mustang for $12k and it had 12k miles on it straight from the dealership. The 04s (new at the time) were almost double that. Her car was basically new, just without the markup and depriciation from driving it off the lot. My mother used to work for a ford dealership and she did all the paperwork. There is a special sheet they have and it states what they paid for the car and what they are making in the deal. I think it is called the blue sheet or the red sheet. If i remember i'll ask her exactly what it was called. When we bought the 03, i asked the salesman if i could see it and he couldn't believe i even knew what it was and acted nervous after i asked. He showed me the sheet and they made a whopping $600 off that car

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66drop
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From: Roseville Ca
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posted 03-23-2006 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66drop        Reply w/Quote
Yea, i'de have almost NO issues with paying $26,000 with my int. options and the color i wanted. My only problem would be geting some one to lay those nice thick ralley stripes down the middle

FSTBK65
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Posts: 483
From: Salem, Virginia 24153
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posted 03-23-2006 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FSTBK65        Reply w/Quote
Back when the 03-04 cobras came out I had a guy with an 03 try to trade me straight up for mine, and the car had like 200 miles on it. I said "Whats your car going to be worth in 2 years? Ok. Whats my car going to be worth in 2 years?"
But he did let me drive it though. 6speed, supercharger, plenty of power but very quite and rode very nice.
I couldnt trade because of the sentimental value of my fastback.

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Ryan Wilke
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From: Stanton, Michigan, zip 48888
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posted 03-24-2006 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ryan Wilke        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
The best of both would to build 65 with all new and upgraded parts.

Here ya go SCOOP:

http://www.sn65.com/

Ryan

zieber
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Posts: 172
From: Central Coast, CA, USA
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posted 03-24-2006 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zieber        Reply w/Quote
I would say get a classic because they have more style except for the fact that you already have one. Those 2005+ models don't look too bad though...

senzstang
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From: perry, oh, usa
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posted 03-24-2006 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for senzstang        Reply w/Quote
$10,000 dealer markup!

I tell you what - Pick out what you like buy it over the phone from a dealer here in the Cleveland area where NO ONE is getting a $10G markup and I will drive it out to you for $5,000!!!

Phil

Fastymz
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posted 03-24-2006 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ryan Wilke:
Here ya go SCOOP:

http://www.sn65.com/

Ryan


Thats very cool, but I'm not much of Fastback guy. Besides wherse's the big scoop???

I like this one better,to bad it's a FB.

http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/mustang_1965.asp

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GTRocks
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Posts: 4800
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posted 03-24-2006 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GTRocks        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/mustang_1965.asp


That's one of my favorites, too!

Mooney
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Posts: 2357
From: Marietta, Ga
Registered: Oct 2003

posted 03-24-2006 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mooney        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
Thats very cool, but I'm not much of Fastback guy. Besides wherse's the big scoop???

I like this one better,to bad it's a FB.

http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/mustang_1965.asp



Isn't that the car they took a perfectly good K code car when they could have taken a beater T code and done the same damn thing?

Fastymz
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posted 03-24-2006 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mooney:

Isn't that the car they took a perfectly good K code car when they could have taken a beater T code and done the same damn thing?

Maybe? Either way it's a nice ride.
There are very few cars I wouldn't cut up to make it custom. A K-code wouldn't be one of them.

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johnmustang
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posted 03-24-2006 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnmustang        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
I'm not much of Fastback guy.I like this one better,to bad it's a FB.



Scoop,

What is wrong with you, have you been sniffing ricer exhaust or something . Fastbacks are the holy grail of all mustangs and you do not care for them, shame on you, shame-shame-shame .

I would get myself another classic mustang before I got myself a new one, I guess I am just old school and prefer the look and sound of the original muscle cars.

Don`t get me wrong I think the new ones are very nice and they are much safer and easier to drive then the classics, but there is something to be said for the originals.

Yes Scoop I would even buy a coupe

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65 FASTBACK 2+2
87 TAURUS WAGON
03 F150 XLT SUPER CREW 4X4 SHORT BOX
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65 FASTBACK
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv M&M #1240
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posted 03-24-2006 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by johnmustang:
Scoop,

What is wrong with you, have you been sniffing ricer exhaust or something . Fastbacks are the holy grail of all mustangs and you do not care for them, shame on you, shame-shame-shame .


What is wrong with me?
You've seen my car that should explain it all.

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Mooney
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posted 03-24-2006 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mooney        Reply w/Quote
Now this.. is the bees knees:
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/fr100_paneltruck.asp

johnmustang
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From: British Columbia , Canada
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posted 03-24-2006 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnmustang        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
What is wrong with me?
You've seen my car that should explain it all.



Yes I have seen your car and it is very . I just can not understand why people do not care for fastbacks, it makes me sad .

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JOHN
65 FASTBACK 2+2
87 TAURUS WAGON
03 F150 XLT SUPER CREW 4X4 SHORT BOX
Member: PACIFIC COAST MUSTANG ASSOCIATION
Member:Vancouver Island Mustang Association
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johnmustang
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Posts: 6748
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posted 03-24-2006 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnmustang        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mooney:
Now this.. is the bees knees:

Bees have knees

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JOHN
65 FASTBACK 2+2
87 TAURUS WAGON
03 F150 XLT SUPER CREW 4X4 SHORT BOX
Member: PACIFIC COAST MUSTANG ASSOCIATION
Member:Vancouver Island Mustang Association
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Mooney
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posted 03-24-2006 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mooney        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by johnmustang:
Bees have knees



Always thought it was an old person term.. thought it'd be perfect for here

Ryan Wilke
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posted 03-25-2006 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ryan Wilke        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mooney:
Now this.. is the bees knees:
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/fr100_paneltruck.asp

That is a WAY panel truck! I'll bet Dale wouldn't mind driving that baby!

However, If I would have had a say in it's construction, I'd of preferred seeing them drop in a 514" crate instead. YEAH BABY!!

Ryan

ekbeanctr
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posted 03-26-2006 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ekbeanctr        Reply w/Quote
Originally posted by Fastymz:
Thats very cool, but I'm not much of Fastback guy. Besides wherse's the big scoop???

I like this one better,to bad it's a FB.


Scoop,
I think my heart is broken I can't believe I would ever hear you say "To bad its a fastback". WAIT, I KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS - YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN A FASTBACK WITH A BIG ENOUGH SCOOP ON IT !!

Ernie

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SundanceKid
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posted 03-26-2006 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SundanceKid        Reply w/Quote
I'm with Scoop.

Coupes are muscle cars, fastbacks are European sports cars.

I prefer the muscular look of a coupe over the elegant look of a fastback.

That and the fact no one builds $$$$ nice coupes. Nice $$$$ fastbacks are a dime a dozen.

johnmustang
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posted 03-26-2006 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnmustang        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SundanceKid:
fastbacks are European sports cars.


Now I never thought I would hear a mustang guy say that. Talk about a low blow

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65 FASTBACK 2+2
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mellowyellow
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posted 03-27-2006 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow        Reply w/Quote
Coops are for chickens , , . , , ,:confused.

Fastymz
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posted 03-27-2006 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ekbeanctr:


Scoop,
I think my heart is broken I can't believe I would ever hear you say "To bad its a fastback". WAIT, I KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS - YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN A FASTBACK WITH A BIG ENOUGH SCOOP ON IT !!

Ernie


You know I really like your car. Heck I've even printed out pictures of it to show my dad and others. Even if it's a FB and RED too

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Fastymz
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posted 03-27-2006 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SundanceKid:
I'm with Scoop.

Coupes are muscle cars, fastbacks are European sports cars.

I prefer the muscular look of a coupe over the elegant look of a fastback.

That and the fact no one builds $$$$ nice coupes. Nice $$$$ fastbacks are a dime a dozen.


I could agree with that, the FB do remind me more of road racers,then HOTRODS.

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mustangs68
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posted 03-27-2006 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangs68        Reply w/Quote
I think you guys mean Hardtops,Mustangs never came as a Coupe

And besides,the Hardtop was marketed toward women to begin with

Sam

Fastymz
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posted 03-27-2006 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mustangs68:
I think you guys mean Hardtops,Mustangs never came as a Coupe

And besides,the Hardtop was marketed toward women to begin with

Sam



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SundanceKid
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posted 03-27-2006 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SundanceKid        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mustangs68:

And besides,the Hardtop was marketed toward women to begin with

Sam


Maybe thats why me and Scoop are always beating the girls off with a stick?

Fastymz
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posted 03-27-2006 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz        Reply w/Quote
LOL

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sprcoop
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posted 03-27-2006 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sprcoop        Reply w/Quote
I know mine is a babe magnet, or is that just me?

Main Entry: cou?p?
Variant(s): or coupe /k?-'pA, 2 often 'k?p/
Function: noun
Etymology: French coup?, from past participle of couper to cut, strike
1 : a four-wheeled closed horse-drawn carriage for two persons inside with an outside seat for the driver in front
2 usually coupe : a 2-door automobile often seating only two persons; also : one with a tight-spaced rear seat

The last half of #2 is a very close description of my car.

GTRocks
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posted 03-27-2006 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GTRocks        Reply w/Quote
Nah, plenty of room back there for the babes!!

KILLER65
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posted 03-27-2006 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KILLER65        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mellowyellow:
Coops are for chickens , , . , , ,:confused.

I like that one. LOL

66drop
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posted 03-27-2006 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66drop        Reply w/Quote
Nice ride! The time & money was well worth it What a magnet

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