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Topic: Bullitt question
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Harley
Gearhead Posts: 204
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Registered: Jul 99
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posted 07-28-2006 11:18 PM
 
I'm shopping for a fairly daily driver. By that, I would alternate it with my 69 sportsroof.Anyway, I ran across a 2001 Bullit and wondered what I need to know about this car. Was it a limited production? Will the value hold fairly steadily compared with other Mustangs? Thanks
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sigtauenus
Gearhead Posts: 3969
From: Va Beach
Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 07-28-2006 11:35 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Harley:
Anyway, I ran across a 2001 Bullit and wondered what I need to know about this car. Was it a limited production? Will the value hold fairly steadily compared with other Mustangs?Thanks
it was limited production. assuming 30,000 miles
2001 GT 14,400
2001 Cobra 19,075
2001 Bullitt 16,350 for me
2003 GT 17,825
2003 Cobra 25,650
2003 Mach 1 20,675 The reason I brought up mine is I don't recall the difference in price for the Bullit and regular GT. When I bought my Mach 1, the price difference was at least 3000 on sticker, and with dealer "markup" people were paying 2000 sometimes 3000 over sticker for the Mach 1. Its almost like comparing apples and oranges since today people are paying over sticker for just a GT, way over sticker for special programs. Bottom line: I think they are depreciating at the same rate. For the short term, buy what you want with the intention of driving it and enjoying it. If you want a good investment for the future long term, buy stock or a mutual fund. There is no middle ground here. Yes, it is possible to buy a car as a good investment, but you won't be driving it every day.
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Harley
Gearhead Posts: 204
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Registered: Jul 99
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posted 07-29-2006 12:00 AM
Thanks for the info.I know very little about the Bullitts. Where they anything special beyond the badges and gas cap, etc? Was it any more high performance than a GT? Any mechanical issues that have surfaced with them? This car had only 7,500 miles on it. they'd had it on the lot several weeks for 23,000, which seems pretty overpriced, but immediately said 19,000 would take it. Very impressive-looking car, though.
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IIGood
Moderator Posts: 3919
From: Arnold, MD, USA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 07-29-2006 12:04 PM
The Bullitt did have a slight performance edge over a GT, mainly due to the better flowing intake manifold setup. This gave the Bullitt about 5 more horsepower over a GT, so says Ford. Some people have claimed to see a little more.But that was about all that was done in the way of engine modification. The Bullitt does have a lowered suspension (springs and shocks/struts) along with heavier-duty sway bars (I think both). The seats are upholstered to look like the seats of a '68; the gauges also have the classic numbering font on them...the pedals are aluminum, the shift knob is aluminum, and of course the badges and fuel door. No Bullitt came with a spoiler either. Originally, the '01 Bullitts cost about $3K more than a GT. ------------------
Frank S.----MCA Member 40390
'03 Mustang GT coupe
'77 Ghia--"II Good"
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sigtauenus
Gearhead Posts: 3969
From: Va Beach
Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 07-29-2006 12:09 PM
At 7,500 miles you are basically buying a new car, so it might actually be worth 19,000. My Mach 1 still has only 18,000 miles on it and rocks. I would not be shy about that mileage, but might try to talk them down to 17-18 for it.
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66HIPO&more
Gearhead Posts: 4244
From: SLC, UT
Registered: Jul 99
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posted 07-30-2006 07:23 AM
Harley, I just came from the Bullitt Nationals in San Fran. Scott Hoag who was instrumental on Team Mustang with the Bullitt design gave a mini-lecture, question answer session.
The Bullitt was initially given HP rating of 275 which was even conservative. But to keep within government and insurance regulations and leave the Bullitt a "GT" in stead of some other designation like the Mach, which they didn't have time to do and get it into production, they lowered the HP ratings. In 1999 SVT had a HP debacle with the Cobras, so in order not to have similar occurence the way they calculated HP in 2001 meant lower ratings also.
I guarantee you, the Bullitt out performs the stock GT hands down. It is definitely worth a few extra bucks.
Variations/upgrades from the GT include intake, exhaust, suspension, and braking. Additionally the Bullitt appearance package.
I've heard it said for performance if you want to drag race buy a Mach, for road racing/autocross buy a Bullitt. (What was McQueen - Frank Bullitt - doing anyway?)They made approximately 5600 Bullitts, which isn't an extremely low number like say 300 2000 Cobra R's. But consider they made 7000 Boss 302's in 1970. In addition to a nice car, you can join the Bullitthead club and have a lot of good times with truly wonderful people.
For a car that started out as a dressed up GT, it has a very healthy following of loyal owners even five years later. Having the "Bullitt" movie heritage and the spirit of Steve McQueen added to the mix, makes it a very worthy vehicle.
Check out my post about the Bullitt Nationals in Sam's Place.
Next years Bullitt Nationals are in Tulsa, OK in conjunction with SAAC.
Check out www.imboc.com (International Mustang Bullitt Owners Club) Good luck in with whatever you decide. J.
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EPPERSTANGS
[This message has been edited by 66HIPO&more (edited 07-30-2006).]
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GTRocks
Gearhead Posts: 4800
From: Lusby, MD
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 07-31-2006 08:07 AM
I read an article in one of my car mags (MotorTrend or MM) that compared the Bullitt to the Mach and the Cobra. The Cobra won in raw straight line, but anything having to do with handling, the Bullitt took every time.
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Harley
Gearhead Posts: 204
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Registered: Jul 99
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posted 08-01-2006 04:59 PM
Darn, you guys are selling me on it. One other question: Down the road, are there any issues that have cropped up with the Bullitts? (outside of people giving you thumbs-up, etc.)
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66HIPO&more
Gearhead Posts: 4244
From: SLC, UT
Registered: Jul 99
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posted 08-01-2006 08:46 PM
Harley my Bullitt is just under 20K miles. Not a lick of trouble mechanically.
From being a Bullitt forum member though there is talk of "death rattle." I have no idea what that is and also some folks have had transmission issues.
Best to go on www.imboc.com and ask there for better details.
Best wishes,
J.
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Harley
Gearhead Posts: 204
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Registered: Jul 99
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posted 08-02-2006 11:38 PM
Before I get too far into this, are there Bullitt clones out there that I should beware of? Here's the VIN on the car I'm looking at:1FAFP42X91F248856
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IIGood
Moderator Posts: 3919
From: Arnold, MD, USA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 08-03-2006 08:15 AM
I don't know if you can tell if it's a Bullitt from the VIN...think it's just the VIN of a GT. But the Bullitt does have a sticker in the engine compartment, stating which number it is. I believe it's located on the driver's side strut tower.Bullitts only came in three colors...Dark Highland Green, True Blue, and Black. Oh...the brake calipers were also "specific" to the Bullitt. They were red with a white running pony on them. ------------------
Frank S.----MCA Member 40390
'03 Mustang GT coupe
'77 Ghia--"II Good"
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66HIPO&more
Gearhead Posts: 4244
From: SLC, UT
Registered: Jul 99
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posted 08-03-2006 12:27 PM
If you look at Frank's Blue GT above notice the rear pillars behind the back window. It's rounded.
This is near impossible to fake in a Bullitt. The rear window pillar is more squared.
Also although the VIN isn't an identifier, on the door tag the interior code is unique for Bullitts. I'm researching it now. Will post the code later.The Bullitt number on the shock tower is a three layered hologram that can't be reproduced. J.
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Harley
Gearhead Posts: 204
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Registered: Jul 99
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posted 08-03-2006 12:44 PM
Thanks gang. From everything I've seen, what I'm looking at is the real deal. The hologram, retro-style seats, etc. I wasn't aware of the squared-off rear pillar.
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Jimmy Ray
Gearhead Posts: 274
From: Ozark MO
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 08-03-2006 02:59 PM
The modified C piller was to give the Bullitt the appearance of a Fastback.... I also own a Bullitt with just over 20000 miles and am hard core memeber of www.IMBOC.com there is regristry that you can check to see your cars history and also Dennis (wonbullitt) has been building a data base on VINs colors and bullitt number. You can contact him and he can help you or he would the car to the data base. Also there are Bullitts for sell on that web site and it seems alot of bullittheads will go out of their way to ensure it is the real thing and call it clone if not... We are very protective of the Bullitt. Preformance is great, Motor trend did a compairson between the Bullitt, a 99 Cobra and the 03Mach1, they basiclly said the Bullitt was the over achiever of the 3 cars.... My personal opion is that the Bullitt will be remembered as one of the high points in Mustang history. It is an impressive car that can do many things very well. I love mine and will own it forever. Plus you can join IMBOC and become a Bullitthead and believe me the Nationals are worth the money wear and tear to attend....
Jimmy
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Jimmy Ray
Gearhead Posts: 274
From: Ozark MO
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 08-03-2006 03:09 PM
KW is the interior code for all Bullitts and PY is the body color code for Dark Highland Green (DHG) Bullitt... The DHG Bullitts where the only Mustang ever painted that color so if it is a DHG with the code PY and KW for an interior code your all good.
Plus the cars are numbered with stickers one on the drivers shock tower and another under the rear seat. They are holgrams and next to impossable to forge, but be wear the orginal stickers where miss printed and the Bullitt number can be removed with harsh cleaners.... Ford has re-done replacement stickers and you have to be good friends with the Parts guy at the dealership to get yours, without needing an replacement.Oh for a rare Bullitt; a Canadian True Blue Bullitt without the Mach460 opition less that 10 where built
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Harley
Gearhead Posts: 204
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Registered: Jul 99
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posted 08-03-2006 03:28 PM
I can't thank you guys enough. Jimmy Ray, do I see you're in Ozark Mo?I was born and raised in MO and lived 10 years in Springfield before moving to the West Coast 20-some years ago. I miss that town, although it seems to grow immensely every time I go back. cheers.
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Harley
Gearhead Posts: 204
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Registered: Jul 99
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posted 08-04-2006 12:14 AM
According to CarFax, it appears the Bullitt I'm looking at is a Canadian car but sold new here. Is that a factor to worry about?
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Jimmy Ray
Gearhead Posts: 274
From: Ozark MO
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 08-04-2006 02:38 PM
Yes I live Ozark... I was born In Humansville Mo and grew up in Springfield went to Parkview, joined the navy did 26 years and returned home... Bought house south of Ozark and half way to Branson.The Canadian Bullitts came with diferant stuff like; lighted vany mirrors smokers package, and few other differnances, you can check the Bullitt archives at IMBOC or do a screah and should find more information on the Canadian Bullittson IMBOC.... Also Ford of Canadian gave all the orginal buyers a press release packages and thank you letter
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