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Sub Stanger/Oxford White 2003 Mach 1.

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Originally posted by SUBMARINER MUSTANGER:
Kind of stupid for you to take your car in there only to have them tell you they can't duplicate the problem when they KNOW the motors are junk.

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Yep. Very frustrating too. I'm half tempted to file a lemon law complaint just to get their attention. Love the car, just hate it when the window won't work.

My big peave is looking like a pompous butt going through the gate in the morning when its raining and my window won't go down. I always roll the window down and say hi and show my ID to the guys guarding the gate, ESPECIALLY when its raining.

That's what makes me think its something electrical, the fact that the window tends to not work when its wet outside.

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Originally posted by GTRocks:
Obviously the motor itself is not bad, since it now works. Once motors fry, they're done. Sporadic stuff doesn't sound like the motor. DC motors have switching networks to drive them...those could be sporadic though I guess....

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This is what you need to do the next time it happens, and it only take 5 minutes. Remove the door panel, (it's easy, three phillips screws, a push pin and lift up on it). Take a test light or volt meter and check for 12v AT THE MOTOR, where the connector plugs into it. Push the up/down switch in both directions. I'll bet you a 6 pack you'll have voltage AT the motor.

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Sub Stanger/Oxford White 2003 Mach 1.

Past Mustangs: '84 GT 5-speed; '91 GT auto; '70 M-code Mach 1, grabber yellow; '95 GT-S 5 speed, green, wrecked and totalled; 1995 GT-S 5 speed, bright yellow; '94 6-banger, wifes; '89 LX 5.0 vert, '90 LX 5.0 hatch, '69 M-code Mach 1, 4 speed, 1990 5.0 LX 'vert w/ AOD converted to T-5.

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Originally posted by GTRocks:
"Dealer Y said they would repair this for me, but before I take my business to them, I thought I'd give you one more chance...."

Worked for me once with a Probe.

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Sub Stanger/Oxford White 2003 Mach 1.

Past Mustangs: '84 GT 5-speed; '91 GT auto; '70 M-code Mach 1, grabber yellow; '95 GT-S 5 speed, green, wrecked and totalled; 1995 GT-S 5 speed, bright yellow; '94 6-banger, wifes; '89 LX 5.0 vert, '90 LX 5.0 hatch, '69 M-code Mach 1, 4 speed, 1990 5.0 LX 'vert w/ AOD converted to T-5.

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Originally posted by sigtauenus:
Hmm, I thought dealers lost money on warranty repairs, something like Ford only pays them 75% of the labor they charge regular customers, or something like that.

Seems like something worth trying.

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We still rely on Ford for business just as much as Ford relys on us to fix they're cars. Business is business, whether or not it's CP dollars or warranty dollars. It really does all wash out in the end, at least on MY end of it.

A dealership isn't going to "turn away" warranty work, which is what GTRocks was getting at with his statement about "threatening" to take their business elsewhere.

The consumer still has many places he or she can go to for warranty work. The thing to remember is that the warranty isn't going to last forever, but if the dealership can leave a good impression on that customer by going ahead and fixing that problematic window motor instead of kicking the guy to the curb by saying they were unable to duplicate a KNOWN problem, hopefully they'll remember that dealership the next time when that window motor is a customer pay work job instead of a warranty repair job.

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Sub Stanger/Oxford White 2003 Mach 1.

Took it to the dealer and fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it), it still wasn't working in the service lane. I asked the woman filling out the paperwork to note that it wasn't working when I drove it in, which she did, but then she pointed out that even if she verifies that its not working, the tech that does the troubleshooting still has to have a failure to fix anything. Hmm. That stinks, particularly with an intermittent problem like I've had.