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Boss Hoss
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From: Georgia
Registered: Mar 2001

posted 11-04-2001 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Boss Hoss   Click Here to Email Boss Hoss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, in an earlier post I said I would do it, and I did it...I finally bought a code scanner for my 1996 GT. I thought the code explanations would be cut-and-dried, but there is some conflicting information that I've been reading.

Does anyone know where I can get a 100 percent correct set of trouble code explanations that pertain to my car? I don't really know if the manual that came with the scanner is really talking about MY car, and I don't trust a Haynes manual, especially since it doesn't even have one of the codes I found!

For the record, I'm getting these codes (both are powertrain codes):
P0133 (intake air temp sensor, I think)
P0304 (cylinder 4 misfire, I think)

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*1965 Mustang 289 coupe*
*1996 Mustang GT coupe*

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JoeC
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From: Springfield, MA.
Registered: Jul 2000

posted 11-05-2001 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoeC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A few ideas for whatever they're worth:

Did you try calling a local Ford or L-M dealer? If you've got a decent one in the area that might be willing to provide some guidance without trying to get you to come in first that might be worth a try.

Can Ford Customer Care get you connected with a Ford Technical Service-type person to assist?

Would a Chilton's manual offer data on codes that you could try and cross-reference against what you already have to try and narrow it down?

Do you have a local vocational/technical high school or college that has an auto repair curriculum? If so, perhaps you can connect with a resource there that might be able to help or provide some guidance?

Do you have a real good auto parts store in your area that might have someone versed in this area that can help?

I have the shop manuals (haynes)on my 2000 but given you've already gone that route, I don't think mine will show anything different than the ones you have.

Good Luck.

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Joe C.
2000 V6 Convertible

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Stewart
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From: Monterey, CA Mustangsandmore Member #437
Registered: Apr 2000

posted 11-05-2001 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stewart   Click Here to Email Stewart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It took me a few try's, but I finally found this site again. http://www.flatratetech.com/

The owner has moved it from the previous web host since I last visited his site, so the address changed. He now has it in UBB format.

I found the original site a right after he started it. Lots of good info and insight into the workings of Ford and Ford tech's. The guy has a lot of good knowledge.

This should help you.
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http://flatratetech.com/pub34.

Deciphering OBD-II Codes FRT
Published by: Flatratetech.com
Publishing Date: 11.3.2001
Authored by: Terry Ogilvie
Enhanced OBD-II refers to information that is specific to a particular vehicle or vehicle manufacturer that is available in addition to generic OBD-II information. How enhanced OBD-II data is defined and presented varies not only by make, but can also vary by model, year, or engine application for the same manufacturer.

Enhanced OBD-II must follow structural guidelines to a point, but a considerable amount of leeway is permitted so it can be tailored to a specific application. Typically, enhanced OBD-II provides more detailed information, so it is a more valuable diagnostic tool. Guidelines for OBD-II were established by the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) with the cooperation of various vehicle manufacturers.

The U.S. Government adopted the SAE guidelines into law, and several other countries followed suit. The SAE maintains control of the established OBD-II guidelines, which are revised and updated periodically. With the difference between generic and enhanced in mind, consider how all OBD-II diagnostic trouble codes are structured. Any DTC must display in a five character alpha-numeric format.

First Character
The first character, a letter, identifies which control system set the code. The other four characters, all numbers, provide additional information on where the DTC originated and the operating conditions that caused it to set. First Character Four letters are currently assigned for use as the first character of a DTC:

P = Powertrain
B = Body
C = Chassis
U = Undefined

Powertrain ("P") codes, apply to the engine along with its emission control systems and the transmission. These codes are generated by either the powertrain control module (PCM), engine control module (ECM), or transmission control module (TCM).
Body ("B") codes, are set by the body control module (BCM) and pertain to climate control, lighting, and electronically regulated power accessory systems.
Chassis ("C") codes define problems in the traction control, variable assist steering, automatic load leveling, and other systems that regulate vehicle dynamics.
Undefined codes are not presently used.

Second Character
The second character The second character of an OBD-II code is a number, and currently zero through three are used. With any type of DTC (P, B, C or U) a zero in the second position indicates a generic, or SAE defined, code. The number one in this position indicates an enhanced OBD-II code, or a code defined by the Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM). When a two or three appears as the second character, the meaning varies according to the system (P, B, C, or U) . With powertrain codes, both numbers are reserved by SAE for future use. With Body or Chassis codes, "2" is reserved for OEM use and "3" is reserved for SAE assignment.


Third Character
The third character of a DTC indicates the system or sub-system where the fault occurred. For powertrain codes:

1 = Fuel or Air Metering
2 = Fuel or Air Metering
3 = Ignition or Engine Misfire
4 = Auxiliary Emission Controls
5 = Vehicle or Idle Speed Controls
6 = Computer or Output Circuit
7 = Transmission Controls
8 = Transmission Controls
9 = SAE Reserved for future use
0 = SAE Reserved for future use

For example:
P01xx = Powertrain, Generic, Fuel or Air Metering Fault
P11xx = Powertrain, Enhanced, Fuel or Air Metering Fault

Fourth and Fifth Characters
The fourth and fifth characters, indicate the operating conditions that triggered the code. Sensors, actuators and circuits are assigned blocks of numbers. The lowest numbers in a block ("00") indicate general malfunctions. Higher numbers provide more specific code setting information, such as low or high signal voltage, a slow response, or an out-of-range signal. For example,
DTC P0100 indicates:
P = Powertrain
0 = Generic
1 = Fuel or Air Metering Fault
00 = General circuit malfunction

Graphics by: Joe M. Young

1.) Many driveability concerns are quickly identified using DTCs.
2.) DTCs beginning with "P0" are Generic and their definition is the same for any vehicle. Enhanced DTCs begin with "P1" and their definition is unique to that particular vehicle.
3.) Some DTCs are the result of an open or short circuit and do not set if the signal is simply out of range.
Others set only if the range or performance is outside the limits of a pre-determined tolerance.
4.) When an OBDII failure is detected, the Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) lights and remains on even if the condition is intermittent. However, some DTCs have two-trip logic, which means the fault must be recognized on two consecutive trips before the DTC sets and the MIL lights. Acura and Honda use three-trip logic for some DTCs, so the conditions must occur on three consecutive trips before the code sets. Also, if the fault does not recur within three or more sequential drive cycles after a DTC is set, the PCM may switch off the MIL. However, the DTC will remain in PCM memory until it is cleared.
5.) Most DTCs are held in memory until they are cleared using a Scan tool. Note, this may include DTCs that are in memory but are not designed to light the MIL.
6.) Be aware, some previously repaired faults may have stored DTCs in PCM memory, but may not have been cleared properly. Always document any DTCs before clearing them. On most vehicles if no DTCs are present, code P0000 (pass code) displays. To verify that a problem area has been repaired, it may be necessary to operate the vehicle through a specific drive cycle and recheck for codes. Remember two-trip DTCs take two drive cycles before they set, so two test drives may be needed to ensure the problem is corrected. A good method of verifying repairs is to use the Scan tool to check the OBD-II monitor status after road testing. Providing the test drive meets the OBD-II drive cycle criteria for that vehicle, the monitor for that system will read "Not Ready" if there is a pending code. This indicates the DTC setting the conditions occurred on the first trip. If all of the monitors read "Ready", the problem was repaired.

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Hope that helps!

Stewart

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