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ddenton749
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posted 10-17-2004 08:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I went with the everyone's suggestion (here and other Mustangers) and installed a set of sub-frame connectors on my '91 5.0 vert this morning.

They made a BIG difference in how the car feels, rides, takes bumps, and corners. For about $50 they're a great improvement. Simply put, the car feels much more 'solid'.

I got the weld-on ones and I had them installed in under two hours. It was a real piece of cake.

If you're thinking about doing it on your Fox, I highly recommend it, especially on the verts. I'm going to install them on my '73 vert as well.

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'91 LX Convertible 5.0
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Ryan Wilke
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posted 10-17-2004 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ryan Wilke   Click Here to Email Ryan Wilke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kool!

Did you buy pre-built frame connectors or did you make your own?

If you bought them, what brand did you settle on?

Ryan

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ddenton749
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posted 10-17-2004 11:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Ryan,

I bought pre-made ones. They're very slick - they have brackets that use the seat bolts that come through the floor. Scroll down on this page to see them:

http://www.blueovalindustries.com/drivetrain.htm

The site also has some pics of their "Blue Thunder" project on which they installed sub-frame connectors.

Because of the additional structural reinforcement, the convertibles need some extra welding. I took some pics of mine. Let me know if you want to see them.

Don

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73torinoqcode
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posted 10-18-2004 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 73torinoqcode   Click Here to Email 73torinoqcode     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Told You

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ddenton749
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posted 10-18-2004 09:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And I listened...

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Ryan Wilke
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posted 10-18-2004 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ryan Wilke   Click Here to Email Ryan Wilke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ddenton749:
I bought pre-made ones. They're very slick - they have brackets that use the seat bolts that come through the floor. Scroll down on this page to see them:

http://www.blueovalindustries.com/drivetrain.htm

Because of the additional structural reinforcement, the convertibles need some extra welding. I took some pics of mine. Let me know if you want to see them. Don


Hi Don,
-- Did you get the red ones ($49.95) or the black ones ($49.95)?
-- Is there a difference between them, other than the color?

Yeah, if it isn't a bother, I'd like to see a pic of your installation..... Thanks!

Ryan

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ddenton749
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posted 10-18-2004 10:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ryan-

I got the black ones. The only difference is color. I'll send you pics from my home computer. Our internet connection here at the office is lousy today.

They FedEx'd them in two days for $7.50

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'91 LX Convertible 5.0
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ddenton749
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posted 10-18-2004 01:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is an interesting observation regarding the installation of the sub-frame connectors I've made since I installed them Sunday morning.

When I took the car out a couple of hours after I did the install, I wasn't sure if there was any noticeable difference. I said to myself, "Yeah, I guess it feels a little better." However, after driving it for a couple of hours, and driving it today, there is a BIG difference.

I think it's because it takes time for the rest of the body to settle onto these new components. When you first put them in, they're basically carrying no load. I believe it takes a day or so of driving, hitting bumps, accelerating, braking, and cornering for the rest of the body to flex and start to transfer load to the new structural members. Does that make sense to anyone?

Man oh man! Today it feels like a different car. It's hard to explain but you actually get bounced around from side to side more on the bumps. The body just doesn't twist.

For less than $60 including S&H, and a couple of hours of relativeley easy work (and you have access to a MIG welder), it's well worth it.

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'91 LX Convertible 5.0
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"Tank, I need an exit."

[This message has been edited by ddenton749 (edited 10-18-2004).]

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Ryan Wilke
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posted 10-18-2004 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ryan Wilke   Click Here to Email Ryan Wilke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Sounds like an improvement to me!

Ryan

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Mr Vids
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posted 11-12-2004 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr Vids     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Had my subs installed on my '92 vert Sunday by a local race car builder. He charged me $35 was all. Noticed a difference in ride and had fewer rattles on the way home from his shop.
Mike

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ddenton749
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posted 11-12-2004 05:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I noticed the same thing...fewer rattles and squeaks

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'91 LX Convertible 5.0
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"I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be."

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