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rm302 boss Moderator Posts: 652 From: Austin Texas Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 04-10-2003 02:40 AM
Any one using them??? Pro's and con's???? Rene------------------ 1970 Boss 302 1990 Taurus SHO 1985 Mustang GT 351W 1995 Land rover Disco 1980 Triumph Spitfire (auto-X car) http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/MembersPics/rm302boss.html
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JCQuinn@work Gearhead Posts: 478 From: Lakewood, CO, USA Registered: Jun 2001
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posted 04-10-2003 10:44 AM
I bought lower control arms from Chassis Engineering in Florida. I like the design and the quality and they come with brackets to mount coil overs and get the spring off of the control arms. I am still building the car so I can't tell you how they work yet.http://www.chassisengineering.com/ John
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Stewart Gearhead Posts: 9218 From: Monterey, CA Mustangsandmore Member #437 Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 04-10-2003 11:56 AM
Rene, what performance level are you looking for? Daily sport/street driving? Straight line 1/4 mile drag? Road racing? Just a plain 'ol upgrade?Stewart
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Hell_Fish Gearhead Posts: 680 From: Austin, TX. Registered: May 2002
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posted 04-10-2003 01:32 PM
1/4 mile drag & road racing! ------------------ Dustin C "The Mopar Guy!" 56 F-100 Mech. for wifes 69 Mustang coupe 65 Plymouth Barracuda 70 Dodge Swinger
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rm302 boss Moderator Posts: 652 From: Austin Texas Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 04-10-2003 02:54 PM
Trailer queen........... Its a Grass roots car so i need the best of three worlds.. 1/4 mile..Auto-x and a good looking car for the concourse comp.. Soooooo.. in a nut shell all of the above.. Rene
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Daniel Jones Gearhead Posts: 532 From: St. Louis, MO Registered: Aug 99
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posted 04-10-2003 06:27 PM
The adjustable upper control arms permit changing the pinion alignment. On my car, with non-stock springs, lower control arms, motor and transmission mounts, etc. my pinion was no longer in alignment (parallel to the output of the transmission), so I had to get adjustable uppers. I'd wait until the rest of the modifications are complete to see if they are needed. Dan Jones
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rm302 boss Moderator Posts: 652 From: Austin Texas Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 04-10-2003 08:37 PM
Well, i have 1 1/2 BBK springs and i will be using a 205-50-15. ( thats a long story)..so with no other mods the pinion angle will be screwed up. Besides i can build the uppers for cheep.. Rene
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rm302 boss Moderator Posts: 652 From: Austin Texas Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 04-10-2003 09:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by Daniel Jones: The adjustable upper control arms permit changing the pinion alignment. On my car, with non-stock springs, lower control arms, motor and transmission mounts, etc. my pinion was no longer in alignment (parallel to the output of the transmission), so I had to get adjustable uppers. I'd wait until the rest of the modifications are complete to see if they are needed. Dan Jones
Dan tell me about your car.... What do you have and what class are you in.... Tell me about the mod's.... I need all of the data i can get.. Rene
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rm302 boss Moderator Posts: 652 From: Austin Texas Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 04-20-2003 01:51 PM
I am going to build a set of upper adjustable arms for my car.. every thing i have read tells me that they will be needed. Rene
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Daniel Jones Gearhead Posts: 532 From: St. Louis, MO Registered: Aug 99
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posted 04-20-2003 06:11 PM
> Dan tell me about your car.... What do you have and what class are you in... > Tell me about the mod's.... I need all of the data i can get.. ReneIt's my daily driver '87 Mustang GT. Chassis and suspension basics are: Global West caster/camber plates (street settings of 1 degree negative camber and maximum symmetric caster) polyurethane sway bar and endlink bushings Ford Motorsport B springs (stiffer and lowered about an inch from stock) Bilstein gas struts and shocks subframe connectors (welded-in) 4 point G-load brace (bolt-in) Ford Motorsport chassis stiffening kit (essentially a kit containing the reinforcements and bracing from convertible Mustangs, welds and bolts-in but no longer available through the FRPP catalog) HPM Megabyte Jr. control arms (probably would have been just as effective to install poly bushings in the stock arms) Steeda adjustable upper control arms (with polyurethane bushings) Prothane polyurethane grease (Teflon based and very sticky, absolutely the best grease I've used on poly bushings) rebuilt 8.8" trak-loc with Moser axles heim joint in place of steering coupler Ford Motorsport aluminum driveshaft 15:1 high effort steering rack (standard issue) stock '87 sway bars (1 5/16" front, 0.83" rear) Bumpsteer kit (offset rack bushings and T-bird outer tie rods) It is a street only car (coming up on 160K miles) so I'm not constrained by any specific class rules, just my wallet. Whenever I get bored with the car or something needs repair or replacing, I usually upgrade. > Well, i have 1 1/2 BBK springs and i will be using a 205-50-15. ( thats > a long story) Hmmm, tires are arguably the single most important part of making a car handle well and 205's are very narrow for a car that weighs as much as a Mustang. I've noticed a lot of difference in the way the car behaves, depending upon the specific tires used. At the same time I put the rear control arms on, I installed Firestone Z-rated rain tires and the car turned into a rear oversteering pig. I just couldn't keep the back end under control when accelerating out of tight low speed corners. I thought it was the 4 link binding until I tried a different set of tires (Dunlops). With no other chassis changes, all of a sudden, the back end was staying put. The Firestones just didn't have enough grip to turn and accelerate at the same time. The Dunlops did so the back end would stay planted. The 4 link rear is certainly a compromise and there is some 4 link binding going on but good tires help to mask it. The proper solution is a torque arm or a 3 link but that's not in the plan at the moment. If contemplating a 3 link or torque arm, be aware they will take a very different spring rate, shock valving, and sway bar stiffness. Dan Jones
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rm302 boss Moderator Posts: 652 From: Austin Texas Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 04-21-2003 02:32 PM
Thanks Dan.. sounds like your in deep... For a street car that is.. Thanks for the tips.. Rene
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rm302 boss Moderator Posts: 652 From: Austin Texas Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 09-03-2003 11:22 AM
Daniel Jones, i need to pick your brain again.. You have more experence with Fox bodys than me are you still there??? Rene
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Daniel Jones Gearhead Posts: 532 From: St. Louis, MO Registered: Aug 99
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posted 09-04-2003 07:56 PM
> Daniel Jones, i need to pick your brain again.. You have more > experence with Fox bodys than me are you still there???I check in every now and again. What's up? Dan Jones
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