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Stangfan
Gearhead

Posts: 645
From: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
Registered: Sep 2000

posted 03-10-2003 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stangfan   Click Here to Email Stangfan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A friend of mine has a really clean 91 Coupe which he wants to modify. The only thing about the car that he doesn't like is that it is an AOD. The good thing is that the car was an inheritance from his Uncle and is in perfect condition. Given that the car was free, he can afford to swap out the trans. Can anyone point me to some instructions and/or a parts list to help get him started?

Thanks very much.

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Steve - M&M Member #690

'90 Limited Edition Mustang LX 5.0 Convertible
'03 Mach 1 Azure Blue

Member: Vancouver Island Mustangs Association; 1990 Limited Edition Mustang Registry
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SteveLaRiviere
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From: Saco, Maine
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posted 03-11-2003 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you do a search in this forum for GTRocks threads, he just completed this swap a little while ago.

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Gearhead
Gearhead

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From: Brisbane, Australia
Registered: Mar 2000

posted 03-11-2003 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gearhead   Click Here to Email Gearhead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Direct him to this page Steve: http://www.westcoastfords.com/articles/tech/t5swap/t5swap.html

This should give him just about everything that he needs to know!

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Cheers,
Ian
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GTRocks
Gearhead

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From: Lusby, MD
Registered: Jun 99

posted 03-11-2003 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GTRocks   Click Here to Email GTRocks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's exactly where I would have pointed you. It's a good, comprehensive article. Any hang-ups that you have, I should be able to help you with. It's a big job, but well worth the effort in my opinion. Be patient, and make sure you have all the parts ahead of time. Junk yard scouring can be time consuming. Most of the 5.0 junkyard items end up on Ebay. It's a good resource, but you'll pay market value. The big items to get from a yard are the pedal assembly, and the shifter boots. If he's thinking of upgrading the exhaust or the rear end, he would be wise to do it all at the same time, since most of it will be disassembled anyway.

Any questions, feel free to ask or email me. I'm sure I can answer 90% of them.

Dave

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Stangfan
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From: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
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posted 03-12-2003 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stangfan   Click Here to Email Stangfan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the replies everyone. I have passed along the link that Ian provided. It appears to have some great information.

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Steve - M&M Member #690

'90 Limited Edition Mustang LX 5.0 Convertible
'03 Mach 1 Azure Blue

Member: Vancouver Island Mustangs Association; 1990 Limited Edition Mustang Registry
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infoseeker
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From: cleveland, ohio, usa
Registered: Aug 2001

posted 03-13-2003 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for infoseeker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
iv done the swap meny meny times b4... its a very easy swap... just rip out the aod/shifter and drop in the manual tranny. swap peddle's/or add a clutch peddle (witch is easy as heck to do) and the clutch cable will go threw a hole in the firewall witch is already there for teh clutch cable. the only thing thats a lil pain yet still pritty easy to figure out is the parking safty stuff where it wont let you crank the car at all... you just run a wire or a "jumper" to the connector that went to the auto tranny.. basicly jumpng the 2 wire's and you will be able to start the car.. anyone can do the swap it's very simple stuff.. oh yeah remember you need a flywheel and some locktight!!!.

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SUBMARINER MUSTANGER
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From: Grandview, Missouri
Registered: Jun 99

posted 03-16-2003 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SUBMARINER MUSTANGER   Click Here to Email SUBMARINER MUSTANGER     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stangfan,
I'm currently in the process of doing this swap as I speak! I just completed the install of the pedals which took a little longer than I expected. You actually have to remove the instrument cluster to actually see what it is that you need to remove. The "westcoastfords" article doesn't tell what a "bitch" it is to re-install the brake light switch on the brake pedal. Since you've got a couple of inches less room, it's a little tougher getting that switch installed on the brake pedal shaft. While you're under there, you might as well reposition the speedo cable to the "hole" to the left (the passenger side) of the original hole. Of course, "westcoastfords" doesn't tell you that you have to try to push the speedo cable through the hole at least 3-4 times to get it past the firewall insulation. Just a little tip. Then you've got to really "pull" on the cable to make it reach where it has to plug back into the instrument cluster. These things I ran into JUST during the pedal installation. Also, I DEFINATELY found it easier to completely remove the steering shaft assembly. If I had to deal with the steering wheel and shaft laying on the floorboard, I don't think I could have completed the pedal install. After removing the bolt and nut securing the steering shaft to the knuckle, I had to use my air hammer to drive the shaft into the passenger compartment off of the steering knuckle. Being a Ford technician, I've got the tools available to make this job a little easier. I hope you're in the same boat, or at least know someone who can assist you. I'll keep you posted on the rest of the swap.

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Sub Stanger/1990 LX 5.0 convertible (AOD to T5 conversion in progress)

Past Mustangs: '84 GT 5-speed; '91 GT auto; '70 M-code Mach 1, grabber yellow; 2 '95 GT 5 speeds, totalled first one; '94 6-banger, wifes; '89 LX 5.0 vert, '90 LX 5.0 hatch, '69 M-code Mach 1, 4 speed.

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Stangfan
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From: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
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posted 03-16-2003 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stangfan   Click Here to Email Stangfan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Sub Stanger...you can never have too much information.

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GTRocks
Gearhead

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From: Lusby, MD
Registered: Jun 99

posted 03-18-2003 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GTRocks   Click Here to Email GTRocks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did not remove the steering column. It is possible. I did not want to have to deal with the pressed fitting, but I must admit that I did contemplate that move. I didn't have much trouble with the brake switch. Just got lucky I guess. I did utter a few four-letter words over the clutch cable though. I also switched to an aluminum quadrant which caused me some issues since I wasn't sure which parts should stay and which should go. I really think that the interior work is far more difficult than the tranny swap itself. I also removed the center console. The westcoastfords article swears you can get the plate through, but when I tried, it had disaster written all over it. I decided not to tempt fate, and removed it. Wasn't that hard and saved a potential junk yard trip.

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Capri
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From: Lyons, ILL, USA
Registered: May 99

posted 03-19-2003 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capri   Click Here to Email Capri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When you guys are done, Dont throw out the shifter and cable. Get in touch with either dad or myself.

Thanks.

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Tony Denysenko
O/SA 3302
86 Mercury Capri

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GTRocks
Gearhead

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From: Lusby, MD
Registered: Jun 99

posted 03-19-2003 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GTRocks   Click Here to Email GTRocks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got the AOD stock shifter and the cable up to, but not including, the kickdown hardware. You need it for something? Collecting dust in the garage at the moment...make me an offer!

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SUBMARINER MUSTANGER
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From: Grandview, Missouri
Registered: Jun 99

posted 03-20-2003 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SUBMARINER MUSTANGER   Click Here to Email SUBMARINER MUSTANGER     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Capri,
I UNBELIEVABLY sold the whole automatic set up after posting it on Corral.net, in one day to a guy in Texas. He mailed the money order the next day and is actually going to pick everything up himself when I'm done with the swap. Talk about lucky!

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