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Gearhead
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posted 07-11-2002 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gearhead   Click Here to Email Gearhead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Things are looking GOOD!!! The engine is all back together and ready to go (new cam, intake, carb). I've repainted all my brackets and accessories, so it looks nice and fresh again. Dave (Wythors) kindly lent me his original 1968 Shelby GT350 aluminum intake manifold, and boy does it look GOOD on the engine. I got a Ford Motorsport chrome dress-up kit, to compliment the performance sounds that will be coming out of the engine. All the emissions stuff has been removed and placed in a big box along with the old 2-bbl intake/carb and cast exhaust manifolds. It looks much cleaner in there now.

I've swapped in the lowering spring and new strut on the front passenger's side, and will be doing the driver's side tonight, and installling the new sway bar with polyurethane bushings and end links. After that it's just a matter of putting the 8.8 differential it (3.73 gears are in and set up already), and hanging the new off-road H-pipe and Flowmaster 2-chamber exhaust (I already swapped in the double-hump cross member, and installed a ployurethane tranny mount at the same time). This thing should be running and back on the road this weekend, as long as evrything goes relatively smoothly.

I'll keep y'all posted!!

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Ian
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I65Stang
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posted 07-11-2002 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I65Stang   Click Here to Email I65Stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very cool! You are still probably gonna beat me . My engine compartment will be painted tomorrow morning (too hot for the paint right now but it is totally prepped, btw I hate efi ) and the 5.0 will be dropped in Saturday .

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Tim

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1965 Mustang coupe, 200 I6, Holley 2300, Clifford header, true duals w/ 26" Smithys
1988 Mustang GT AOD vert, 15.810 @ 88.871 mph 100% stock w/ no traction
1976 Silverline Comoro 18' trihull ski boat, 188 hp 302 I/O, another toy
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wythors
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posted 07-11-2002 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wythors   Click Here to Email wythors     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gearhead:
Dave (Wythors) kindly lent me his original 1968 Shelby GT350 aluminum intake manifold, and boy does it look GOOD on the engine.

Errr...... Ian, it's a '66.

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bfxcomet
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posted 07-12-2002 03:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bfxcomet   Click Here to Email bfxcomet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right on Ian glad to hear things are coming together for you. Next time your in Port I would like to go for a burn.
I worked on my t-bird tonight and like the last 2 weeks it was a struggle but thats what hot rodding cars is all about.
Roger

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Gearhead
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posted 07-12-2002 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gearhead   Click Here to Email Gearhead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wythors:
Errr...... Ian, it's a '66.


Oops. I stand corrected.

Yeah, but 66 converts to 68 in Canadian years.

It's still really cool.

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Gearhead
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posted 07-12-2002 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gearhead   Click Here to Email Gearhead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bfxcomet:
Right on Ian glad to hear things are coming together for you. Next time your in Port I would like to go for a burn.
I worked on my t-bird tonight and like the last 2 weeks it was a struggle but thats what hot rodding cars is all about.
Roger


You bet Roger! I'll let you and Dave know when I'm heading up there, for sure.

Yeah, I struggled a bit last night too. Had the clip pop off the back of one of the brake pads, and won't stay in place now. I guess I'll have to get a new set of pads now. I also managed to somehow get a cormer of the clip to embeded in my thumb almost down to the bone... bled like a stuck pig for a while. Oh well, the rest of the front end is done now, so it's on to the 8.8 tonight/tomorrow!!

Ian

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posted 07-15-2002 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gearhead   Click Here to Email Gearhead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, not quite as much done as I would have liked over the weekend, but it is progressing! The engine is totally done and ready to fire. The exhaust is hung all the way back to the mufflers, but I need to have the tailpipe hangers welded onto my frame before I can hang the tailpipes. The front suspension is totally done, so all I need to do is drop the 7.5 differential and put in the 8.8 (that will be tonight's job). I have the brakes all off the 7.5, so it's just 4 bolts now, and the rear will drop right out!

Why do these projects always take longer than expected?? Bellevue is coming up FAST.

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Ian
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I65Stang
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posted 07-15-2002 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I65Stang   Click Here to Email I65Stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gearhead:
Why do these projects always take longer than expected??

Lol, I have no clue what you are talking about .

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posted 07-16-2002 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gearhead   Click Here to Email Gearhead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Crap crap crap crap. Ran into more technical difficulties putting the new rear diff in. What bonehead at Ford deceided to mount the 1979 sway bar by using a stupid bracket attached to the control arm??? Grrrrr... What's worse is that they put the bolts in the same way for both sides, and obviously it was done without them in the car (because they won't come out with the control arm attached). Now I have to drop the exhaust system that I so carefully hung and pull the lower control arms right out.

So, the long and short is, my new diff is not in yet, I don't have any brakes, the subframe connectors aren't in, the tailpipes aren't hung (damn, I need to get a welder), and there is no way I can get it all back together, polished, broken in, tested and ready to go to Bellevue by Thursday afternoon. I'm not a happy camper.

I think that Dave and LuAnn are going to hire a hit man to track me down when they read this post. I'll be hiding under my bed.

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Ian
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Ian's Pace Car Website
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Indy Pace Car Registry of Mustangs Official Website

"A friend will bail you out of jail after you do something stupid... a real friend will be sitting beside you saying 'That was SO COOL!!'".

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I65Stang
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posted 07-16-2002 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I65Stang   Click Here to Email I65Stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That sucks Ian but I feel ya! I told you how much I hated installing the new 8.8 into my vert right? Major pita. If I recall correctly, I pulled the swaybar as far down as I could (holding it with my foot or something) and actually lifted the rear end over it (had my bro help).

I'm in the crap crap crap crap club with ya. After some problems with the engine install yesterday (dont ever try and do it on a hill [dont ask but it was the only place I could try yesterday]) I hope to get it dropped in tonight after some touchup painting today. Aint this fun?

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Tim

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1965 Mustang coupe, 200 I6, Holley 2300, Clifford header, true duals w/ 26" Smithys
1988 Mustang GT AOD vert, 15.810 @ 88.871 mph 100% stock w/ no traction
1976 Silverline Comoro 18' trihull ski boat, 188 hp 302 I/O, another toy
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posted 07-16-2002 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gearhead   Click Here to Email Gearhead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by I65Stang:
That sucks Ian but I feel ya! I told you how much I hated installing the new 8.8 into my vert right? Major pita. If I recall correctly, I pulled the swaybar as far down as I could (holding it with my foot or something) and actually lifted the rear end over it (had my bro help).

I'm in the crap crap crap crap club with ya. After some problems with the engine install yesterday (dont ever try and do it on a hill [dont ask but it was the only place I could try yesterday]) I hope to get it dropped in tonight after some touchup painting today. Aint this fun?


Man, it's a conspiracy against us Tim!! My problem with the sway bar is that with the original bar it didn't bolt directly to the control arm. There are brackets bolted into each control arm that the sway bar is attached too (the original sway bar is about the thickness of a pencil, and the bracket has rubber mounting bushings... real stiff, year right ). In order to install my new sway bar directly to the control arm I have to take out the brackets. The one on the passenger's side came out no problem, as the bolts were put in fron the outside, and the nuts were on the inside of the control arm. On the driver's side the bolts were put on (obviously while it was out of the car) with the bolts on the inside, and the nuts on the outside. The bolt is too long to get out with the control arm still attached to the torque box. In order to get to the bolt on the torque box I have to remove the muffler on the driver's side and try to get an extended socket on the bolt, and then somehow pound it out once the bolts is taken off. THEN I can hang the differential and put on my new sway bar. Then I need to figure out how to put my back brakes together again.

Oh yeah, one other problem that I discovered last night is that the bolts for the rear shocks are different between my old 7.5 and the 8.8. Now I need to find some sort of bushing to slip into the shock mount so I can use another type of bolt, otherwise the damn shock is going to be rattling around back there. Great.

My damn job is getting in the way of my play time.

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Ian
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posted 07-16-2002 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I65Stang   Click Here to Email I65Stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah ok, I misunderstood what you were saying about the sway bar. Lol, now its a real race between you and me and seeing who gets going first after all the problems pop up :rollleyes: . I need about 12 more hours in a day, no time...

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posted 07-17-2002 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gearhead   Click Here to Email Gearhead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, got the 8.8 in last night. Still no brakes though! I got that stupid bracket out, but had to drop the control arm to do it. All my buddies were busy, so I wrangled the new diff up into place with a couple of floor jacks... it went smoother that I thought it would!

I did discover another little glitch last night too. My new H-pipe (Pacesetter) gives only about 1/16th of an inch clearence around the tranny cross member on the driver's side (yes, it is a double hump cross member). Not sure if it's a problem with the H-pipe or the hanger bracket. I tried to bend the bracket down a bit, but it was impossible with the H-pipe in there. I'll drop it tonight and see if I can get it down enough to ensure it doesn't hit when the engine torques over.

If I can do that and get the rear brakes sorted out I may even get it on the ground by tomorrow, and break the cam in. Then I need to get it to the muffler shop to have the subframe connectors, tail pipes and quad-shock brackets welded to the car. Did I mention that I need to take a welding course and get my own welder?

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Ian
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'79 Mustang Indy 500 Pace Car
Ian's Pace Car Website
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Indy Pace Car Registry of Mustangs Official Website

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posted 07-17-2002 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I65Stang   Click Here to Email I65Stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool Ian! We are gonna finish about the same time I think .

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Tim

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1965 Mustang coupe, 200 I6, Holley 2300, Clifford header, true duals w/ 26" Smithys
1988 Mustang GT AOD vert, 15.810 @ 88.871 mph 100% stock w/ no traction
1976 Silverline Comoro 18' trihull ski boat, 188 hp 302 I/O, another toy
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posted 07-18-2002 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gearhead   Click Here to Email Gearhead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Getting closer!! Got the rear brakes all put on last night. Man, I would like to take the person who designed the drum brake system and beat them with a stick!! Grrrrr... I hate dealing with that damn puzzle. Rear disc brakes are going on this car as soon as the old shoes wear out.

I'm going to put in new U-joints tonight, put the wheels on and get this damn thing running!!! Can't wait to hear the horsies thumping under the hood.

My only other problem has been with the serpentine belt. I took off the smog pump, but have not been able to get a belt to fit properly. A 69.5 or 70" are too short to get around the pullies, and a 70.5 is too slack once the tensioner is on (rubs against itself by the water pump pulley). Not sure how to solve this. For now I've just put the pump back on and will deal with the noise that it makes until a better solution is found.

Sooooooo close. It's booked in to get the tail pipes and subframe connectors welded on tomorrow. Yipee!! I'm going to be able to drive my car again... and now it's going to be FAST... and HANDLE.

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Ian
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Ian's Pace Car Website
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Indy Pace Car Registry of Mustangs Official Website

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posted 07-18-2002 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I65Stang   Click Here to Email I65Stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good deal Ian!!! If all goes well mine will be started this evening. Just picked up the last of the parts (tranny fluid, oil, coolant ).

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Tim

M&M Member #35
1965 Mustang coupe, 200 I6, Holley 2300, Clifford header, true duals w/ 26" Smithys
1988 Mustang GT AOD vert, 15.810 @ 88.871 mph 100% stock w/ no traction
1976 Silverline Comoro 18' trihull ski boat, 188 hp 302 I/O, another toy
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posted 07-21-2002 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I65Stang   Click Here to Email I65Stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Ian..... I beat you!!! The Electric Booger is back on the road ( http://home.attbi.com/~tcstang/done1.jpg ). Lol, where are you at now?

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Tim

M&M Member #35
1965 Mustang coupe, 200 I6, Holley 2300, Clifford header, true duals w/ 26" Smithys
1988 Mustang GT AOD vert, 15.810 @ 88.871 mph 100% stock w/ no traction
1976 Silverline Comoro 18' trihull ski boat, 188 hp 302 I/O, another toy
https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/I65Stang.html

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posted 07-21-2002 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gearhead   Click Here to Email Gearhead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, you didn't. The 79 was back on the road tearing up the pavement on Friday the 19th!! I've just been too busy driving the wheels off of it to post here. Actually, I spent Saturday working the bugs out, but it was techincally running and on the road Friday.

I went to the local show here today (after some major cleaning last night and at 6 am today) and took 2nd in my calss to Turbo-4's pristine 30,000 mile 86 SVO. Cool!!

I've created a monster. This thing is FAST. I've only really layed into it once and third gear barked the tires hard. I'm definitely more than happy with the mods!!!

More updates and hopefully some pictures (from Ponygir67) in the next day.

Congrats on getting your car on the road Tim... great feeling, isn't it!!

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Ian
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'79 Mustang Indy 500 Pace Car
Ian's Pace Car Website
Vancouver Island Mustang Association Website
Indy Pace Car Registry of Mustangs Official Website

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