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1MonsterEffie
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From: Gloucester, VA
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posted 05-23-2002 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1MonsterEffie   Click Here to Email 1MonsterEffie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey.
I just got a 302 from a ford guy I know that has alot of stuff. This particular long-block was sitting in the back of a trailer for an indefinite period of time. I tore it down today, and judging by the oil pan and casting stamps, its a 1980 302 out of a Mustang. I would like any info you can provide on these heads, as I need to decide whether to use them instead of my brand new D00E castings when it all goes back together. Thanks in advance.

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Velocity0
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posted 05-24-2002 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Velocity0   Click Here to Email Velocity0     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think it would be a 1980 302, because ford didn't make a 302 in the 80s. It was a 255 during that time.
At least, they didn't put them in the mustangs.

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1MonsterEffie
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posted 05-24-2002 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1MonsterEffie   Click Here to Email 1MonsterEffie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, its a 302 with 80 stamped in the casting, in the area where the year is always stamped. So therefore, it is a 1980 302. It had a dual sump oil pan, as does the mustangs, so I assumed it was from a mustang. my mistake.

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4Zsnow
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From: Western Washington, USA
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posted 05-25-2002 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 4Zsnow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Velocity0:
I don't think it would be a 1980 302, because ford didn't make a 302 in the 80s.

Are you sure? I coulds swore the '82-83 Had them with two bore motorcrafts on them? The 83 might of had a marine cam in it.
Lynn

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IIblue74
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posted 05-25-2002 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IIblue74   Click Here to Email IIblue74     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are several possible answers. 1)In '80 the 302 used a dual sump on other apps (cougar, t-bird, etc.)
2)the '80 (E0) in the engineering # is the casting design year, not actual production date so it could be from 81-2 or so
3) rebuild shops will use 302 casting to build swapper shortblocks so you may get a different year # than your core
To answer your original question, the D00E castings are usually considered better than 80-ish castings

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1MonsterEffie
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posted 05-25-2002 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1MonsterEffie   Click Here to Email 1MonsterEffie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks.
I looked it up on the computer at work (I work at the local carquest) and Ford put a 302 in the Granada and Full-Size cars in 1980, but it was a 255 in the mustang

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ragtopjr
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posted 05-28-2002 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ragtopjr   Click Here to Email ragtopjr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
actually they did have 302's in the mustang for its entire run as a fox body, starting in 79 and going right through to 93.

They did also offer the awesome and powerful 255 in the early years of the fox bodys not one of fords better ideas.

The early 80's heads were not anything special probably worse then most years, the D00e's would be a far superior head to use.

Just my opinion

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Rory McNeil
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posted 05-29-2002 04:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rory McNeil   Click Here to Email Rory McNeil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, in 80&81, the only V8 available in the Mustang/Capri, & the Fairmont/Zephyr was the 255. The 302 WAS available in Mustangs in 79, and then came back in 82.

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1MonsterEffie
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posted 05-29-2002 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1MonsterEffie   Click Here to Email 1MonsterEffie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Carquest computer did not list a 302 mustang in 1980, and they have all the stock engine configurations, except if like SVT/SVO did something to it, I doubt it, but there was no 302 in a stock Mustang in 1980.

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ragtopjr
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posted 05-29-2002 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ragtopjr   Click Here to Email ragtopjr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm thanks Rory.

I knew for a fact that they were in the 79's and 82's and just assumed that they were also in the 80 and 81's.

Sorry for the misinformation.

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Heart mods:Trick High flow titanium valve ported & polished Listen close: "tic tic tic" No folks thats not a noisy lifter thats the sound of big flow!
1984 5.0L LX Conv 3600 lbs 13.41 at 101.89 SIR

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