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Topic: Ram Air Hood
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662+2
Gearhead Posts: 202
From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 10-25-2006 08:40 AM
 
I am putting a 460 into my 72 mustang and I am changing to a fiberglass hood I have a Ram air hood with the fiberglass piece underneath to connect to breather this hood is mint shape no bondo no dents no rust and I was wondering what you guys think it was worth. Thanks
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 48752
From: Saco, Maine
Registered: May 99
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posted 10-25-2006 10:33 AM
They used to be worth a bundle until the $400 repro hoods came out. Do you have all the Ram Air pieces, like the flapper valves and air cleaner? ------------------
'70 Mustang Mach 1 - '70 Mustang Convertible - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 XL
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662+2
Gearhead Posts: 202
From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 10-25-2006 10:55 AM
No I don't have the other pieces. The FG hood I am looking at is $699 it is the ram air hood with 3" cowl.
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 48752
From: Saco, Maine
Registered: May 99
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posted 10-25-2006 12:15 PM
I can only say what I'd pay for it, but if I was in the market and it was mint I'd pay up to $200-300.------------------
'70 Mustang Mach 1 - '70 Mustang Convertible - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 XL
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662+2
Gearhead Posts: 202
From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 10-25-2006 01:42 PM
I guess it all depends if you want a original hood that is usually alot better than the aftermarket as far as quality and fit.
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 48752
From: Saco, Maine
Registered: May 99
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posted 10-25-2006 01:50 PM
That's very true.------------------
'70 Mustang Mach 1 - '70 Mustang Convertible - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 XL
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PONYMAN
Gearhead Posts: 421
From: Ardmore, Ok. USA
Registered: Jul 99
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posted 10-25-2006 05:25 PM
I actually have the repro hood and it s pretty darn good. All the holes were there for the ram air to bolt up and it fit without any modifications. The holes for the vacumn hoses were in the right places also. Only problem is that the repro is arched a litle too much, but if you first install it before painting and then massage it little you can bend the arch out of it without damaging the hood. I was very impressed with this piece.
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cobravenom71
Gearhead Posts: 1349
From: Poinciana, Fl USA
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 10-25-2006 11:13 PM
If by 'arch' you are referring to how the edge of the hood sits a little high in the middle on both sides, then that is ironic...because the factory-produced ram-air hoods also proudly display a bad arch there. That particulr defect is very common on ram-air hoods. I wonder why that wasn't corrected when the repro piece was engineereed?
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PONYMAN
Gearhead Posts: 421
From: Ardmore, Ok. USA
Registered: Jul 99
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posted 10-26-2006 05:15 PM
Yeah, that is exactly what I am talking about. maybe it is an even better repro than I thought. My factory hood didn't have the arch in the middle of the fenders, but maybe it had been sat on by a big guy several times in the last thirty years. I still have the orginal hood, but at the last repaint I was afraid to use it. It had had several rust pinholes on the underside that we filled with lead and it had been on the car for several years. I felt that as sure as I go ahead and use it, then these holes would start coming back, hence the repro hood.
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71RESTO
Gearhead Posts: 1655
From: Oregon, USA
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 10-26-2006 06:00 PM
That 'arch" isn't just a problem with the Ram-Air hood either. My original flat hood (still on the original car from the factory) has an arch to it as well.
If I recall, Mustang Monthly talked about this in an article a good 6 to 7 years ago and they recommended washers (or shims) under the bolt points along the fenders to cause the fneders to arch to match the hood (an origianl NASA hood). ------------------
Duane
71 Fastback (under resto-351C-4V C6 auto)
M & M Member #730
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PONYMAN
Gearhead Posts: 421
From: Ardmore, Ok. USA
Registered: Jul 99
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posted 10-26-2006 09:01 PM
We did both, put it on the car before painting and bent some of the arch out, and shimmed up the fender mounting points. didn't get all of it out, but it looks pretty good. I would recommend this repro hood to anyone. I can't say that about all rpeo parts. I had some rust in the drivers side wheel well. I bought a quarter panel skin. It was awful. Thank goodness I hadn't planned on replacing the whole skin. We were able to cut a section out with the weel well lip in it and use the rest of the orginal quarter panel.
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662+2
Gearhead Posts: 202
From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 10-27-2006 07:21 AM
So after hearing about all the problems what would you pay for a perfect hood (factory) with just bolt in. I know how much a reproduction would cost but wouldn't you guys pay more for an original piece in great shape?
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71RESTO
Gearhead Posts: 1655
From: Oregon, USA
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 10-27-2006 10:06 AM
quote:
Originally posted by 662+2:
So after hearing about all the problems what would you pay for a perfect hood (factory) with just bolt in. I know how much a reproduction would cost but wouldn't you guys pay more for an original piece in great shape?
There aren't any problems, it's jsut a fact a of life with these hoods----original or reproduction.
To answer your question, seeing as how I know where I can get an NOS hood still in the Ford box from 1971 for $1000 and the repros (which are very good from everything I've heard) run about $400, then maybe somewhere around $500 for a mint "used" original. ------------------
Duane
71 Fastback (under resto-351C-4V C6 auto)
M & M Member #730
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662+2
Gearhead Posts: 202
From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 10-27-2006 10:41 AM
Duane thanks that's is the answer I was looking for I just want to put a price on this hood and that will give me a good idea what I should ask. My only other option was that I take a perfectly good hood and cut and install a cowl which I really didn't want to do, I would rather buy a fiberglass hood and sell mine to someone looking to keep all original parts on their car.
Thanks 
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 48752
From: Saco, Maine
Registered: May 99
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posted 10-27-2006 06:39 PM
Gotta respect that. If it's really in mint shape, maybe my $300 estimate is low. I guess I would pay more for a gennie, too. Plus the real one has date codes on it, too.------------------
'70 Mustang Mach 1 - '70 Mustang Convertible - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 XL
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 29200
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 10-27-2006 06:58 PM
I put one of those re-pop ram air hoods on the 73 351C convert project we did last year.
Got it from NPD and it fit very well.
Require very little tweaking to look perfect.
We had more trouble with the cheap ass damn decals than the hood. LOL ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
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PONYMAN
Gearhead Posts: 421
From: Ardmore, Ok. USA
Registered: Jul 99
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posted 10-28-2006 09:30 PM
If I was going for a concours show car, I probably would spend the big bucks for an NOS hood, or a very nice original. For my uses the repro is absolutely great. Let me make my earlier post clear, I had no problems with this hood other than an arch and evidentaly that is common even on the orginal hoods. This is one of the best pieces of repro sheet metal I have seen, fits well, all mounting holes are in the right spot and it very substantial, not some light weight piece of crap. My original hood is fair and if I were selling it I would probably ask about $200 or so for it.
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cobravenom71
Gearhead Posts: 1349
From: Poinciana, Fl USA
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 10-29-2006 08:04 AM
Yep, I did the washer/shim trick with the bolts on the fender, and the hood and fenders line up perfectly. No problems at all.Now, as to that decal comment: I agree, a lot of them are bogus.
Specifically, the '429 Ram Air' decals for the hood are great except for the fact that the '2' is not lined up squarely with the rest of the characters. I had to cut them apart and mount them individually.
And this is not a rare occurence either...every single '429 Ram Air' decal I have seen for the last 20 years is like this.
Just go to any vendors web-site and if they show a picture of it, you will see it too.
Pathetic.
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