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mach1mustang
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posted 06-15-2005 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mach1mustang        Reply w/Quote
Hello every one!
im new to the mustang world so please bare with me if my question apear simple or stupid.

I recently(3months)bought a 1973 mustang machone,,, i am very happy with it, its runs and looks awsome!

Unfortunatly i have been told it is realy a grande made to look like a mach one.... and i was just wondering whats the difrence? it looks exactly like a mach one, it has a 351C 2v and as far as i know it is a mach1...please help me identify the real make of this car

thanks alot

pmhvps
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posted 06-15-2005 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pmhvps        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mach1mustang:
Hello every one!
im new to the mustang world so please bare with me if my question apear simple or stupid.

I recently(3months)bought a 1973 mustang machone,,, i am very happy with it, its runs and looks awsome!

Unfortunatly i have been told it is realy a grande made to look like a mach one.... and i was just wondering whats the difrence? it looks exactly like a mach one, it has a 351C 2v and as far as i know it is a mach1...please help me identify the real make of this car

thanks alot



I think a Grande is a Coupe. If it is a Sportsroof then I don't think it is a Grande. Chime in guys if I'm wrong.
Mike.

mach1mustang
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posted 06-15-2005 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mach1mustang        Reply w/Quote
well it is a sports roof, and it has the spoiler front and back, but my mechanic says its a grande, he said he is pretty sure that the numbers inside give it away,,,, im not 100%sure whitch is why i ask.

I already know i overpayed for the car so if it turnes out to be a grande instead of a mach1 im probably going to sue for some of my money back, witch i will then put back into the car

so if anyone knows how to tell the difrence it would be greatly apreaciated

SkinnyMan
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posted 06-15-2005 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkinnyMan        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mach1mustang:
well it is a sports roof, and it has the spoiler front and back, but my mechanic says its a grande, he said he is pretty sure that the numbers inside give it away,,,, im not 100%sure whitch is why i ask.

I already know i overpayed for the car so if it turnes out to be a grande instead of a mach1 im probably going to sue for some of my money back, witch i will then put back into the car

so if anyone knows how to tell the difrence it would be greatly apreaciated


Grandes stateside were all coupes.

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ddenton749
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posted 06-15-2005 03:31 PM              Reply w/Quote
A Grande has the standard coupe roof and often came with the half vinyl top. The Mach 1 has the fastback roof. Therefore, it can't be a Grande. Here's one Grande site I found:

http://hometown.aol.com/jbetten330/mustang/index.htm?f=fs

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mustangs68
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posted 06-15-2005 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangs68        Reply w/Quote
If you want post the codes and one of us will decode them for you.

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posted 06-15-2005 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PONYMAN        Reply w/Quote
Perhaps someone has changd the dash pad and cover out with one from a grande. On a 71-73 the id # is attached to the metal pan on top of the dash, and you can easily remove and change this in about 10 minutes. Do the numbers on the dash and the door tag match. Just because it is a sports roof, does not mean it is a Mach 1. All Grande's were couples, but they made sports roof models that were not Mach 1's.

SteveLaRiviere
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posted 06-15-2005 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere        Reply w/Quote
If your VIN has a '05' in the third and forth digits, it's a Mach 1. If it says '02' it is a standard Sportsroof.

All Grandes were hardtops {coupes} with a luxury package. They will have an '04' in the VIN.

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mach1mustang
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posted 06-15-2005 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mach1mustang        Reply w/Quote
the numbers on the door and the number on the dash do not match!
the dash look newer than the door.

The doors badge says 3f04h183632
it also says a bunch or numbers with the body and colour ect,...

the dash has a difrent number with 2 hang writen F's on eash end of the numbers

the dash's number is 3f02h213386
I hope this helps get to the bottom of this
thanx guys

68 Coop
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posted 06-15-2005 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 Coop        Reply w/Quote
From the #'s Steve posted, it looks like you got a Grande with a Mach 1 dash vin #. The last 6 #'s on the vin is the amount of cars that were produced.

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mach1mustang
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posted 06-16-2005 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mach1mustang        Reply w/Quote
I decoded the numbers and the dash says its a sportsroof but im not sure if that meens mach1 of just sportsroof of another model,

the other number, on the door says its a grande coupe witch does not make scence because you can tell by looking at it that its a sports roof

hmmm, im getting more confused about what the car is and just as confused about what to do about it!!!

should i call and bitch for some money back? i already know i over payed but i dont know if i should let it go, or if i should try to take action due to the false advertisement

68 Coop
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posted 06-16-2005 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 Coop        Reply w/Quote
Try talking to the guy, and let him know that you what your intentions are, and see what he says then. Just outta curiosity, what vin # is on the title???

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mach1mustang
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posted 06-16-2005 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mach1mustang        Reply w/Quote
I would call the guy to tell him my intentions but i dont know what my intestions are!
What would you guys do if in this situation?

the number on the title is the same as on the dash "3f02h213386" witch would be sportsroof, not grande coupe, but im still confused!!!! sportsroof does not meen mach1 right? it could just be a grande sportsroof right?

Do you think i should ask for money back?
i would ask for a full refund and give the car back but i have already spent 1,800 on geting it running correctly!

GRRR im so confused and i dont know what to do!!!!!

If you want to see my car check out this link, its pics and as you can see it says mach1 but only because i thought it was http://www.cardomain.com/ride/818539

68 Coop
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posted 06-16-2005 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 Coop        Reply w/Quote
It's a good looker, sux about the fender. I don't know what to tell you to do, but I would do it as legal as possible, at first. You are big enough to intimidate, so I would think the person who sold it to you would want to have you happy. I hope you get it figured out, so you can enjoy it. Nice car.

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mach1mustang
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posted 06-16-2005 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mach1mustang        Reply w/Quote
Dont worry im not going to be trying to use intimidation, its a buisness and i dont think it would get me far trying to get pushy.
They live about 3 hours and an hour long ferrie ride away so i will be talking to them over phone.

I bought the car from http://Vancouversei.com

If not i will just try to sue him because i got quoted is was worth $7,000 befor the engine repairs and i paid $1,800 to get it running smoothly(new carb, new gas tank, fuel lines filter ect...) when i got it they said it Ran good, started good, drove good but when i got it the engine stalled and didnt run well at all!

I love the car but i feel like i was sorta lied to, now that it runs well its alot of fun and wouldent sell it even if i had offers, but im sure not gonna let this go unchecked

68 Coop
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posted 06-16-2005 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 Coop        Reply w/Quote
I hope they make it right, because I'm sure it's frustrating as Hell to have this happen.

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Scott H
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posted 06-16-2005 04:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott H        Reply w/Quote
Welcome to Mustangs and More and welcome to the Mustang hobby!

First, you've got a great looking car!

Whether or not its a factory-built Mach I could easily be prven by contacing a company known as Marti Auto Works. Kevin Marti worked for several years trying to get information from Ford on ALL mustangs, and eventually obtained a huge database from Ford. He is the only one who has it and the only one licensed by Ford to use it and sell the information. The database will contain all the original information about your particular car.....when it was ordered, when it was built, how it was equipped, where and when it was sold. It will be THE answer to all your questions.

Now, about this thing about suing to get your money back....let it go. You have a great car! It isn't a show car, at least not yet, but I'm sure you love it and will enjoy making your own modifications and improvements to it. You, as an enthusiast, probably had a lot more interest in that car than the dealer, and yet you arent' really sure what it is. Do you think the dealer knew any better? He may be innocent. Maybe he was told it was a Mach I and he didn't know any better. It CAN be very confusing trying to document an old car. Also, it could be that he was selling it on consignment for the previous owner and only had the information that owner told him. There can be lots of reasons and excuses, but the bottom line is that you got a really nice car at a typical price. I don't think you over-paid for it even if it isn't a 'factory' Mach I.

In the USA, you would have to prove that 1) a crime occured, and 2) that there was intention for the crime to have occured.

The sticker on the door doesnt' mean anything at all. A door is easily unbolted from one car and changed onto another, especially if there was accident damage. You need to work with the number on your title. Hopefully you will be able to find a matching VIN inside the engien compartment somewhere, sometimes on a steel business-card sized plate that has your vin and other info on it.

Enjoy your new car and put the past behind you.

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Dave Witthoeft
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posted 06-16-2005 05:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Witthoeft        Reply w/Quote
Nice looking car..

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joerigby5836
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posted 06-16-2005 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for joerigby5836        Reply w/Quote
Hi, I just had to comment here it is a good looking car. I do agree with Scott you should put it behind you it is a nice looking car maybe not 100% correct restoration but it looks good. As Scott metioned the doors are interchangeable as are many parts. Now there was never a grande verison of the Fastback Mustang if that sets your mind to rest. The car does not have the correct side strip package on it. The so called Hockey sticks were only used on the 71 through 72 and the 73 had a single plane sidestripe. but other than that the car looks good. Adding that most of the 73s I have seen restored have the Hockey stick which is perfered over the orginal. As to your cost if it makes you feel better I paid 4K for my 72 Mach1 Fastback which was in rought condition but had a rebuilt motor in it and some body work done. My car is currently in the body shop getting its final touches and painted its orginal colors at a cost of 6k. This does not include the all new weather strips & a new hood which I had to purchase when they found mine to be pitted with rust. Nore does it include other parts i had to shop for over the last 1-1/2 years that were missing. At that when the body shop is finished my car is only going to be abot 90% correct but will look 100%.

you may want to look at the 429 mustang mega site which was a lot of help for me this site only has documentation on the 71-73 Mach1's

http://www.429mustangcougarinfo.50megs.com

Best to you
Joe Rigby

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ddenton749
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posted 06-16-2005 08:16 AM              Reply w/Quote
If you take either fender off (or take the top bolts out to move the fender just enough) you will find the VIN stamped in the tops of the shock towers. That should be the original vin for the car.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 06-16-2005 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere        Reply w/Quote
Guys, I don't understand why you are confused? Read my previous post:

quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
If your VIN has a '05' in the third and forth digits, it's a Mach 1. If it says '02' it is a standard Sportsroof.

All Grandes were hardtops {coupes} with a luxury package. They will have an '04' in the VIN.


Your car is an Sportsroof. {note the '02' in your VIN.}

It is not a Mach 1. {note the '02' in your VIN.} If your car was a Mach 1, the VIN would be 3f05h213386


It obviously has had the door replaced with a door from a Grande. {note the '04' in the VIN on the door sticker.}

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mustangs68
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posted 06-16-2005 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangs68        Reply w/Quote
Thats a nice Pony,enjoy it!
Sam

68 Coop
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posted 06-17-2005 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 Coop        Reply w/Quote
Can I plead blindness over stupidity ???

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Fastback68
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posted 06-17-2005 04:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68        Reply w/Quote
When the time comes that you need to remove the left fender, follow ddenton's advice. You'll have a partial VIN there. If it matches the dash, you'll know you have the original dash. If it's different, it won't in itself tell you if it's a Mach 1 or a regular sportsroof.
As someone else said, swapping the dash pad on a 71-3 is a breeze, and can be just as misleading as a swapped door.
However, in my few years of buying up these cars, I've so far only come across Mach 1 dashes on original Sportsroofs, never the other way around.

Bob429
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posted 06-20-2005 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob429        Reply w/Quote
Nice looking Sportsroof!! Many people (including some magazines) Confuse Mach I's and sportsroofs because Mach I is an option package for a Sportsroof. Think of a Sportsroof as a base model and a Mach I as a Deluxe version of the sportsroof. I love my sportsroof.

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Fastback68
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posted 06-20-2005 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68        Reply w/Quote
On that subject, I've read that a Mach 1 interior could be ordered for a Sportsroof, and a Mach 1 could be bought with the standard interior. If that's true, it sort of makes a mockery of the whole thing!
Plus the top of the line 71s - 429s - were Sportsroofs only, I believe.
I wish the whole GT / Mach 1 / 72-3 CJ thing never happened It just confuses folks and jacks up the prices of cars that really shouldn't be worth any more, IMHO. Now Bosses, HiPo cars and the earlier CJs are a whole different kettle of fish.

cobravenom71
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posted 06-21-2005 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cobravenom71        Reply w/Quote
It's not confusing at all!

There was the standard hard-top, and the up-scale hard-top was the 'Grande'.

Then there was the 'sportsroof', and the up-scale sportsroof was the 'Mach 1'(and Boss 351 in '71).

The Mach 1 came with a minimum level of extra equipment over the sportsroof:

Mach 1 standard extras in 73(over a sportsroof):
1)'Mach 1' grill: Black, honeycomb texture, small horse and tri-bar (no corral), and black head-light doors. (Your car has the standard grill, a clue that it is a sportsroof)
2) 302-2V (sportsroof had 6-cyl standard)
3) Non-functioning ram-air style hood was a no-cost option on 302 cars, and standard equipment on 351 cars. I know...makes no sense.
4) Honey-comb textured rear panel applique (your car does not have this...another tip that it is a sportsroof)
5) Different wheel/tire combo
6) Dual outside door mirrors
7) A few minor mechanical 'upgrades' too, but hardly a difference.
And that is basically it! EVERYTHING ELSE was an option!

Fastback68
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posted 06-21-2005 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68        Reply w/Quote
Aaah, I'm glad you pitched up So that last line about everything else being an option ... are you confirming what I read? Mach 1s could be had with plain interiors, and Sportsroofs could be had with Mach 1 interiors?

mach1mustang
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posted 06-22-2005 03:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mach1mustang        Reply w/Quote
Well on thursday i will have a better idea, because the fender is comming off, i will let you know the results

skips69
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posted 06-22-2005 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for skips69        Reply w/Quote
I don't think you got hurt on the car for what you paid. They're only going up in value also. Having and older car (whatever make) will cost you money in repairs and upkeep if you're driving it - alot less if you're the one doing the wrenching though. You should have compared the VIN on the title to the door tag and dash before you purchased it though and got your questions and bartering out of the way beforehand. All of the necessary information is plentiful on these cars, and everyone should be armed with this knowledge when they go out to make a purchase. I think you really did make a good purchase for the money - car really looks solid and overall complete. If you're changing the paint color and interior, and have already had an accident, I just don't see where the seller will be obliged to offering any partial refunds at this point. I have seen worse conditioned cars bought for more money. I think you did fine and should be enjoying her. She looks great!

mach1mustang
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posted 06-22-2005 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mach1mustang        Reply w/Quote
I never said what i paid for it, i only said what i was told it was worth.
I paid alot more witch id rather not say to save myself ebarasment hahahaha
Lets just say the ad and pictures made it look alot better than it was!

moral of this story, always check it out in person first!!!!!!


Im still very happy with this car and its alot of fun, Everybody comments on its potential and its good looks.
I dont plan on it being a showcar, and id rather make it alot faster so i guess it doesent realy matter that its not a machone

mach1mustang
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posted 06-24-2005 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mach1mustang        Reply w/Quote
The car is back from the shop again.
After removing the fender we see that the vin matches the dash instead of the door.
I guess it makes it a sports roof, or fastback but not a mach one.

I also would like to know what the diffrence between 2v and 4v is?(sorry for the novice question)

Also is it possible to change a 2v into a 4v???

when changing a 2 barrel carb to a 4 barrel do you just have to buy a bigger carb or is there more work involved?

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posted 06-24-2005 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 Coop        Reply w/Quote
You'll have to change the intake manifold also, but they are not that hard to do. I did mine last year, and it was the first and only time I have taken on something like that EVER. I had the support from these guys here to walk me through it, and have yet to have a problem. If you are not afraid of buying good used stuff, check the classified ad section. You can find some pretty good deals there. I've bought several parts from other members here, and have never been disappointed yet.

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posted 06-25-2005 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68        Reply w/Quote
On a 351C 2V (the engine in this case), changing the intake manifold is not that straightforward, I believe. The ol' fellas talk of some ugly engines in which 4V heads were put on 2V engines, so I guess a 4V intake manifold with 2V heads could be equally ugly.
Much simpler to try and find a complete 4V engine - although they are rare as hen's teeth now in the Philippines.

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posted 06-25-2005 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mach won        Reply w/Quote
Changing the intake manifold on Cleveland is a piece a cake.

Get a 650-750 Holley for your carb, and if you're going to keep the motor internals stock, get an Edelbrock Performer 2V four barrel manifold.

If you plan even the most modest internal upgrades, get a Weiand X-cellorator 2V four barrel manifold.

If I were you, I'd get the Weiand anyway. It's a single plane manifold, which as a rule of thumb are supposed to have more high RPM power at the cost of low RPM power.

I've tried both, and to me there's little to no difference between the two at low RPM, but above 5K the Weiand is much better.

Oh BTW, the 2V in both cases, means the manifold fits Cleveland 2V heads.

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posted 06-25-2005 01:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cobravenom71        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fastback68:
Aaah, I'm glad you pitched up So that last line about everything else being an option ... are you confirming what I read? Mach 1s could be had with plain interiors, and Sportsroofs could be had with Mach 1 interiors?


Yeah, the 'Mach 1' interior was not standard on ANY 71-73 Mustang, even the Mach 1! (go figure...)
The 'Mach 1' interior option included:
1)Specific upholstery design with 'stripes' in the seats.
2)Matching full-length carpet 'runners'(mats that were sewn into the front carpets)
3)Camera-case finish dash panels with bright surrounds(trim)with wood-grain inserts
4)Molded door panels with wood-grain inserts
This option was available on sportsroofs and Mach 1s only. Hard-tops and convertibles had a 'deluxe' interior available, which is basically the same as the 'Mach 1' interior, but with a different pattern and material to the seat upholstery.
The 'Grande' had the 'deluxe' interior standard.

And...whay was that model called a 'Grande'?...It was no larger than any other Mustang model that year! (I think Ford was fudging what they intended 'Grande' to mean!)

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posted 06-25-2005 02:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68        Reply w/Quote
How about the panel above the radio, where it says MUSTANG or MACH1 of GRANDE?
Did a Mach 1 with a standard interior still get the MACH1 panel?
I presume a Sportsroof with the Mach 1 interior would have still only got the MUSTANG panel.
As for "Grande", maybe ... maybe? ... they meant it in the corrupted English sense of "grand" meaning posh.

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posted 06-28-2005 04:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68        Reply w/Quote
Well, after all these years I finally read a new section in my Mustang Recognition Guide!
1) There was no such thing as the Mach 1 interior, but there was an option called the Mach 1 Sports Interior.
2) And in answer to my question above, if a Mach 1 came with the standard interior, the panel in the center did indeed say Mach 1.

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