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Topic: Hobbyists May Be Banned From Buying Paint
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Joe Grippo Gearhead Posts: 259 From: Elverson, Pa Registered: Dec 2004
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posted 11-10-2005 11:42 AM
Lifted from the Hemmings e-weekly newsletter -Hobbyists May Be Banned From Buying Paint If you're planning on refinishing your car somewhere down the line, you might want to think about buying your paint today. Addressing the Collision Industry Conference on November 1, 2005, held at the Mandalay Bay Hotel in Los Vegas in conjunction with the SEMA show, EPA Environmental Protection Surface Coating Specialist Kim Teal outlined some of her agency's plans for their next air-pollution rule from automotive surface coating. The last version of this rule, issued in February, 2004, was focused primarily on bodyshops, but the new regulations, scheduled for release in 2007 and adoption in August, 2011, are far more sweeping. "The rule will impact everyone, no matter how much you use," she is reported as saying in Automotive Body Repair News. That may have a major effect on the hobby, as "the rule will attempt to restrict sales of paint to people who are not certified users." This language has some powerful support. In a letter to Teal dated October 26, 2005,representatives from the Automotive Service Association (ASA) and National Automobile Dealers Association (NADA), recommended steps that sound uncannily like Teal's remarks just a few days later. The letter, which suggests measures to be incorporated in the proposed rule, suggests that "Prospective purchasers and users of automotive refinishing products would need to be employed by a certified shop...Clearly, reasonable controls on the purchase and use of automotive refinishing products is key to helping eliminate unnecessary VOC emissions..." We'll let you draw your own conclusions about the EPA's, ASA��s and NADA's intentions, but if there was ever a piece of car-related legislation about which to write your legislator, this is it. Kim Teal's contact information can be found at www.epa.gov and your legislators at www.senate.gov and www.house.gov. The original letter from ASA and NADA is available at www.asashop.org. - By David B. Traver Adolphus
------------------ Grippo Racing If nothing else, we look good. Wanna see some pictures? public.fotki.com/JoeGrippo/
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sigtauenus Gearhead Posts: 3969 From: Va Beach Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 11-10-2005 12:29 PM
Well, I don't need to buy paint today, but definitely before 2011. Not really any different than any other law being proposed or passed lately regarding hobbyists, their cars, or their property.
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bbjay351 Gearhead Posts: 308 From: Festus, Mo Us Registered: May 2004
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posted 11-10-2005 01:40 PM
And just think about all the independant paint suppliers around that will have to close their doors due to this. If they make a living off of selling to over the counter customers, that will come to an end. Just another way in my opinion to squash the little guy.
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capri man Gearhead Posts: 8777 From: doerun, ga. Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 11-10-2005 07:25 PM
the epa is the worse thing that has ever happened to the united states!!!!!!!! ------------------ mike r racing is real everything else is just a game. 81 capri-302-7.25 @93mph 1/8 1.54 60ft 50 % of the fun dragracing is meeting people who will give you the shirt off their back to wipe the grease off your hands. M&M member #839 http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/mike470/adel2.jpg
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lcl Gearhead Posts: 137 From: new waterford oh Registered: Mar 2005
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posted 11-11-2005 03:11 AM
Whats next, can't paint your house (must be done by a "certified user"), can't change your oil (must be done by a "certified changer")can't color with your kids (must be a "certified magic marker user"). It's out of control. By the way how do you get a job like hers'?
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68 Coop Gearhead Posts: 5847 From: Mesquite, NV. 89027 Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 11-11-2005 06:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by lcl: [B]It's out of control.B]
Actually, it's ALL about control. We are being forced to give up more and more, and they are doing it so slick, that the Majority don't realize it till it's too late..------------------ William "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog."
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Ryan Wilke Gearhead Posts: 3237 From: Stanton, Michigan, zip 48888 Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 11-11-2005 08:25 AM
quote: Originally posted by lcl: Whats next, .... can't change your oil (must be done by a "certified changer")... It's out of control.
Which is exactly why we all need to stay informed (thanks for the heads-up, Joe!) and rather than just complain to each other, we ALL need to respond to our congressmen (using the links Joe provided) about how we object to their controling our world! But we also need to demonstrate that WE can do it right! We all need to be smarter when handling our chemicals such as motor oil, coolant, etc. All folks need to do a better job of recycling and promoting recycling via our car clubs, at the track, with the neighbor's motorhead teenager, etc. Some areas of the country there are good recycling systems & programs setup and in place...in other parts, many rural counties, they still need help. Go to your local county commissioners monthly meeting where they discuss the fate of solid waste disposal, tire disposal, household hazardous waste, etc. and find out what recycle systems are in place or ask when they will such a plan in place. Don't be intimidated by them - they're just local folks like you. We, as adult auto-hobbists/racers, need to be responsible, be informed & set an example of taking some initiative in controling the future of our hobby/sport. When the neighbor kid or the newbie at the track is about to dump their tranny fluid in the dirt, we need to speak up and suggest, "Hey, do you have a catch can? Do you need to use mine?" Then it can be recycled. Don't just turn a blind eye to it. If your local track doesn't have waste oil containers, suggest that they get a few; or see if your local 5-minute oil change joint would want it. Around here they will recycle your waste motor oil (taking up to 5-gallons/visit) for NO CHARGE. The local potato farmer heats their shop area with a special furnace that burns used motor oil - so you see there are places that want it & use it! WE CAN CONTROL OUR DESTINY..... Ryan
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bbjay351 Gearhead Posts: 308 From: Festus, Mo Us Registered: May 2004
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posted 11-11-2005 09:28 AM
And most of the auto parts stores like Auto Zone recycles oil and antifreeze also.
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68 S-code GT Gearhead Posts: 3835 From: Sayreville, NJ, US Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 11-11-2005 07:26 PM
This will put a lot of paint suppliers out of business and like Ryan said, it��s all about control. I live in NJ and between the EPA and the NJDEP the restrictions are getting tighter and tighter. You could turn off every internal combustion engine in the state and the air would still not pass the clean air requirements. Maybe a wall has to be built along the Delaware River to block the wind from blowing from the west to the east. As far as the waste oil goes! At least here, any place that sells oil is required to take waste oil. I don��t see tanks at the local supermarket but Wal-Mart and Kmart have automotive facilities and should be able to accept it. Your town or county might even take the waste oil. I started looking into the furnace thing but will start a new thread over in Sam��s place.
------------------ Ed S. 68 S-code FB GT 4spd(now C6)/3.25 PS PDB 68 J-code(now 289) Cp Sprint"B" C4/3L00-9" PDB PS AC Bla-Bla-Bla 99 F150 XLT Ext/cab, 4X4, 5.4L, 3L55
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 48752 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99
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posted 11-11-2005 08:44 PM
quote: Originally posted by Joe Grippo: Lifted from the Hemmings e-weekly newsletter -Hobbyists May Be Banned From Buying Paint If you're planning on refinishing your car somewhere down the line, you might want to think about buying your paint today. Addressing the Collision Industry Conference on November 1, 2005, held at the Mandalay Bay Hotel in Los Vegas in conjunction with the SEMA show, EPA Environmental Protection Surface Coating Specialist Kim Teal outlined some of her agency's plans for their next air-pollution rule from automotive surface coating. The last version of this rule, issued in February, 2004, was focused primarily on bodyshops, but the new regulations, scheduled for release in 2007 and adoption in August, 2011, are far more sweeping. "The rule will impact everyone, no matter how much you use," she is reported as saying in Automotive Body Repair News. That may have a major effect on the hobby, as "the rule will attempt to restrict sales of paint to people who are not certified users." This language has some powerful support. In a letter to Teal dated October 26, 2005,representatives from the Automotive Service Association (ASA) and National Automobile Dealers Association (NADA), recommended steps that sound uncannily like Teal's remarks just a few days later. The letter, which suggests measures to be incorporated in the proposed rule, suggests that "Prospective purchasers and users of automotive refinishing products would need to be employed by a certified shop...Clearly, reasonable controls on the purchase and use of automotive refinishing products is key to helping eliminate unnecessary VOC emissions..." We'll let you draw your own conclusions about the EPA's, ASA��s and NADA's intentions, but if there was ever a piece of car-related legislation about which to write your legislator, this is it. Kim Teal's contact information can be found at www.epa.gov and your legislators at www.senate.gov and www.house.gov. The original letter from ASA and NADA is available at www.asashop.org. - By David B. Traver Adolphus
Funny you'd post this too. When I saw this today it inspired me to start a new forum, just so we can watch our backs: https://mustangsandmore.com/cgi-bin/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=Legislative+Watchdog&number=23&DaysPrune=1000&LastLogin= ------------------ '70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open '70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open '72 Mustang Sprint Hardtop 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc '94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip '05 Mercury Sable LS 3.0L DOHC 24V Duratech V6
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Jimmy Ray Gearhead Posts: 274 From: Ozark MO Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 12-15-2005 01:32 PM
Wrote my Representative and plan on writing more.... Not only is this about control it's about money, look at all the money Auto body/repair industry losses because of the auto hobbyist. I would like to see proof that the auto hobbyist is distroying the envorinment. Compaired to other industries. Next thing we'll have to move to the moon to have any freedoms.
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Mike65 Gearhead Posts: 2291 From: Bloomfield, NY, USA. Western Finger Lakes, 65 Fastback, 69 Coupe MCA #-04549 Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 12-21-2005 12:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by lcl: Whats next, can't paint your house (must be done by a "certified user"), can't change your oil (must be done by a "certified changer")can't color with your kids (must be a "certified magic marker user"). It's out of control. By the way how do you get a job like hers'?
Yes it is WAY out of control. The lawmakers want to do their best to destroy our hobby.------------------ Mike & Robin Grentus, Owners/Innkeepers (4 SALE) A Wolfpack Bed & Breakfast 6700 Rts-5&20 Bloomfield, NY 14469 (585)657-4863 65 Mustang Fastback 69 Mustang Coupe 99 Explorer Sport 00 Ranger XLT Extd Cab 4X4 M&M #- 890 MCA #- 4549 See us at www.wolfpack-bnb.com
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